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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:24 AM Jul 2015

‘Sovereign citizen’ arrested after twice trying to grab one of six loaded guns

Sheriff’s deputies arrested a Georgia “sovereign citizen” who twice attempted to pull one of the half-dozen guns he had within reach inside his car decorated with a hand-painted Confederate flag.

A Towns County sheriff’s deputy and an agent from the Appalachian Regional Drug Enforcement Office stopped 30-year-old Dustin Lee Gunnells, of Hiawassee, for an unspecified misdemeanor traffic offense Wednesday, reported WKRK-AM.

“Immediately the driver exhibited aggression towards the officers and began making statements consistent with ‘sovereign citizen type beliefs,” the sheriff’s office said in a statement. “Rather than comply with deputies, the driver reached for a gun.”

The deputies feared for their safety but did not shoot, and instead broke out a window in Gunnell’s car and physically removed him from the vehicle.

...

Deputies said they found six guns — a 9mm hand gun, a .45-caliber handgun, a .40-caliber handgun, a .44 magnum caliber short rifle, and a .223-caliber AR-15 military-style rifle — and extra ammunition inside Gunnells’ car.

Each of the weapons was loaded, and all but the AR-15 had rounds within the chamber, authorities said.

Two of the handguns, including the one Gunnells kept holstered at his back, were cocked, investigators said.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/sovereign-citizen-arrested-after-twice-trying-to-grab-one-of-six-loaded-guns-in-his-confederate-flag-car/

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‘Sovereign citizen’ arrested after twice trying to grab one of six loaded guns (Original Post) phantom power Jul 2015 OP
Guy is obviously a genius... Orsino Jul 2015 #1
The only reason he wasn't shot: n2doc Jul 2015 #2
it's funny how that works, isn't it phantom power Jul 2015 #4
Guess what color his skin is?... luvspeas Jul 2015 #3
When deputies claim fear for their lives and UNARMED black men/children are shot, we're all just blm Jul 2015 #7
Hey, maybe we haven't heard all the facts yet... luvspeas Jul 2015 #8
white asshole privilege lapfog_1 Jul 2015 #5
Where was he going with all that gear? Could be he was LeftinOH Jul 2015 #6
Probably will... 2naSalit Jul 2015 #10
And SKINNER is standing up for him! jberryhill Jul 2015 #9
That's a redundancy Cirque du So-What Jul 2015 #14
"Gunnells, whose Facebook page shows... an interest in conspiracy theorist Alex Jones" jberryhill Jul 2015 #11
He's lucky he didn't change lanes without signalling Orrex Jul 2015 #12
Yup, if he had been black, he'd be dead. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #13
I'm an Aussie. We don't really have guns. SwissTony Jul 2015 #15
Explain what? jberryhill Jul 2015 #16
I think I'll just go into the corner and curl up. n/t SwissTony Jul 2015 #19
Well, okay, here's an explanation then jberryhill Jul 2015 #20
I believe it is actually legal to own a tank in certain parts of the US. SwissTony Jul 2015 #23
Legal? In some places it's mandatory, I think jberryhill Jul 2015 #24
Where? I am so there! KamaAina Jul 2015 #25
It's the Rick Perry method of enumeration ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #17
LOL. I realised the report said 6 but only 5 were listed. SwissTony Jul 2015 #21
Good thing he wasn't black eh? Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2015 #18
Ah yes, the "print your own drivers license at home" crowd. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #22
So the jackbooted thugs arrested him for merely exercising his second amendment rights as a Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #26
Watch the videos HassleCat Jul 2015 #27
isn't this begging to shoot off your ass? irisblue Jul 2015 #28
Stop Telling Black Men erpowers Jul 2015 #29

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
3. Guess what color his skin is?...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:29 AM
Jul 2015

"The deputies feared for their safety but did not shoot, and instead broke out a window in Gunnell’s car and physically removed him from the vehicle."

blm

(113,102 posts)
7. When deputies claim fear for their lives and UNARMED black men/children are shot, we're all just
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jul 2015

over-reacting and playing the 'race card', dontchaknow.

luvspeas

(1,883 posts)
8. Hey, maybe we haven't heard all the facts yet...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015

I'll wait on my judgement until the oppressors tell me what they want me to think happened.

lapfog_1

(29,227 posts)
5. white asshole privilege
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

Clive Bundy Ranch standoff all over again.

unarmed but vocal black woman pulled over for not signaling a turn... she dies in custody (possibly from a cerebral hemorrhage caused by being slammed to the ground... and then faked to look like she hung herself)... heavily armed white asshole, pulled over for a minor traffic violation... reaches for a gun and is... not shot but arrested (and apparently not slammed to the ground).

LeftinOH

(5,358 posts)
6. Where was he going with all that gear? Could be he was
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

about to go on a shooting rampage somewhere. It's a good thing he was stopped. One has to wonder if he gets his kill-toys back after this. Hopefully not.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. And SKINNER is standing up for him!
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jul 2015

Well, folks, if you needed any further evidence of how fucked we are, read this:

"Skinner suggested the deputies must have found something to initiate the stop when they ran his license plate number, but she thought they should have consulted local law enforcement and found “he is a kind outdoors type person (and) not some gun mad criminal looking for a fight.”"

I'll bet we find Sid Dithers mixed up in this thing too!

Orrex

(63,228 posts)
12. He's lucky he didn't change lanes without signalling
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

Or he might have killed himself under circumstances that are absolutely in no way dubious or suspicious.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
15. I'm an Aussie. We don't really have guns.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015

But can somebody explain this..

"Deputies said they found six guns — a 9mm hand gun, a .45-caliber handgun, a .40-caliber handgun, a .44 magnum caliber short rifle, and a .223-caliber AR-15 military-style rifle — and extra ammunition inside Gunnells’ car."?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Well, okay, here's an explanation then
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:46 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe he was just going for a quick errand in a relatively non-hostile area and didn't feel it was worth bringing along a more extensive set of weapons.

Kind of surprising he didn't have a shotgun. They can be downright handy:

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
23. I believe it is actually legal to own a tank in certain parts of the US.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:49 PM
Jul 2015

That would make shopping so much safer.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
26. So the jackbooted thugs arrested him for merely exercising his second amendment rights as a
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015

responsible gun owner? For shame!

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
27. Watch the videos
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:52 PM
Jul 2015

You Tube has many of these "sovereign citizens" taunting the police, refusing to have a driver's license, claiming the police have no authority over them because they are "citizen ad litum" and much more highly interesting and amusing stuff. I think it would be very interesting if black people started a similar movement, perhaps based on the fact they were brought here involuntarily and held in slavery, and are this not subject to the authority of the government. They certainly have a better case than all these so-called sovereigns, whose only real problem is with any form of authority. Of course, as nearly everyone points out, if black people tried this stuff, they would be shot in significant numbers. Can you imagine a black man driving around in a car full of loaded weapons? My god!

irisblue

(33,036 posts)
28. isn't this begging to shoot off your ass?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jul 2015

Two of the handguns, including the one Gunnells kept holstered at his back, were cocked, investigators said.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
29. Stop Telling Black Men
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jul 2015

Now everyone has to stop telling black men and women that if they would only comply and not be aggressive toward the police they would not get hurt, shot, and/or killed. This man became aggressive just about the very moment the police stopped him. That alone could have gotten a black person killed. He then reached for a gun, or multiple guns twice. That also would have likely gotten a black person killed.

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