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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:47 AM Aug 2015

A world without work in our future? Not going to happen!

Jeremy Rifkin announced the end of work in a book by that title in 1995. Today, we are once again being told that the end of work is nigh. The Atlantic Monthly tells us so in a piece entitled, "A World Without Work." Automation and computer technology will bring unimaginable change and prosperity--and result in the loss of millions of jobs that will not be replaced.

I heard this before when I was young. In the 1960s there was talk of a three-day workweek for similar reasons. Obviously, it didn't work out.

My purpose here is not to provide a detailed critique of such prognostications. Rather, I ask the same question I ask when I see a science-fiction film depicting widespread space travel and planetary colonization. Where are they getting all the energy to do these things?

In the Atlantic piece--a clever and rather more subtle discussion of the post-work world than I've seen elsewhere--the word "energy" appears exactly zero times. It is assumed that humans will somehow extract enough energy to run all the new machines that will serve (or run?) us. It is assumed that climate change will not be so disruptive as to make our current technical civilization crumble or at least falter significantly. It is assumed that the modeled effects of climate change on the world's major grain growing areas--lots of drought--won't change our priorities drastically toward growing more food in more places. In short, the future is just the past with a lot more energy-guzzling gadgets and apparently a lot more playtime.


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A world without work in our future? Not going to happen! (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 OP
It's going to happen, in fact, it's happening already Hydra Aug 2015 #1
"Barred from the workforce" is incorrectly framing the problem. Binkie The Clown Aug 2015 #2

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
1. It's going to happen, in fact, it's happening already
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:05 AM
Aug 2015

The question is, will the people who are barred from the workforce going to be left to fend for themselves, or are we going to have a less "interesting" time of it.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
2. "Barred from the workforce" is incorrectly framing the problem.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:51 AM
Aug 2015

There will be nothing for people to do when the economy grinds to a halt. People will not be barred from the workforce simply because there will be no "workforce" for them to be barred from.

To quote from another blog post by a different author:


The input of oil into national economics has not exempted humanity from the laws of physics. The trappings of civilization have not altered our fundamental rule of existence: whether your station in life is humble or exalted, if you don’t produce food from the earth on a personal basis, your life depends on someone, no matter how many stages removed, converting sunlight into food on your behalf. Not only that, it must be sold at a price you can afford within a stable environment. Essentially, civilization is just that. Remove it and most will starve while those with enough personal resilience will have no option but to revert to hunter gathering or even scavenging, because what we call civilization is as fragile as the oil it sits on. For the millions of homeless people living on the streets in our ‘civilised’ cities, civilization is over. For them there is little hope of a return to prosperity, with a good job, a warm home and security.
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