Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Omaha Steve

(99,669 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:38 AM Aug 2015

If Keystone XL permit is rejected, TransCanada might sue U.S. for $2.4 billion it's already spent


http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/if-keystone-xl-permit-is-rejected-transcanada-might-sue-u/article_5c186e50-95ad-567f-b57f-1ee7f3c547ac.html

POSTED: WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5, 2015 12:01 AM | UPDATED: 12:27 AM, WED AUG 5, 2015.
By Joe Duggan / World-Herald Bureau

LINCOLN — A Canadian corporation seeking to build the Keystone XL pipeline says it has already spent $2.4 billion without having laid a foot of pipe.

If President Barack Obama rejects the pipeline, TransCanada could use a provision of the North American Free Trade Agreement in an attempt to recoup that cost from the United States.

The 1994 trade pact between the United States, Canada and Mexico allows corporations to file what’s called a Chapter 11 claim (not to be confused with bankruptcy) against a member nation to settle disputes. If TransCanada were to win such a case before a special NAFTA tribunal, U.S. taxpayers could be on the hook for monetary damages.

TransCanada CEO Russ Girling recently left a possible NAFTA challenge on the table when asked what the company would do if Obama rejects the pipeline permit application.

FULL story at link.

7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If Keystone XL permit is rejected, TransCanada might sue U.S. for $2.4 billion it's already spent (Original Post) Omaha Steve Aug 2015 OP
thanks, nafta restorefreedom Aug 2015 #1
Asshats should've waited until 2naSalit Aug 2015 #2
Even if they won, the $2.4B would be cheaper than poisoning the Ogallala Aquifer. Scuba Aug 2015 #3
Of course. There are weasel lawyers and a lot of money involved. TPP will bring more of this shit. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #4
What a bunch of loonies that would be. Orrex Aug 2015 #5
Being able to sue and being able to win are vastly different things geek tragedy Aug 2015 #6
Does That Figure Include.... Laxman Aug 2015 #7

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
1. thanks, nafta
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:41 AM
Aug 2015

and bill clinton.

these free trade agreements work so well

i guess that is why hillary has not come out against tpp or keystone xl

this is not hillary bashing..these are the kind of issues that matter..she can't avoid taking a position forever


2naSalit

(86,665 posts)
2. Asshats should've waited until
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:43 AM
Aug 2015

they were actually allowed to build the damned thing. They thought they had enough politicians bought off. They're getting desperate since they are spending so much more to rape the land now that the price of crude is dropping drastically.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
4. Of course. There are weasel lawyers and a lot of money involved. TPP will bring more of this shit.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:21 AM
Aug 2015

If I buy furniture for a house I hope to buy, but the home purchase falls through, that is my tough shit. I don't get to sue the current home owner for the cost of the furniture.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
5. What a bunch of loonies that would be.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:23 AM
Aug 2015

Still, $2.4B would be a small price to pay to prevent this continent-spanning disaster.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Being able to sue and being able to win are vastly different things
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:31 AM
Aug 2015

See, for example, the Methanex case:

http://www.state.gov/s/l/c5818.htm


On August 9, 2005, the Tribunal released the Final Award, dismissing all of the claims. The Tribunal also ordered Methanex to pay the United States' legal fees and arbitral expenses in the amount of approximately $ 4 million. The award and other documents appear on this page.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
7. Does That Figure Include....
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:32 AM
Aug 2015

the money they spent buying politicians? They'll probably base their lawsuit on either breech of contract or consumer fraud-but we already paid the fee for this pipeline!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»If Keystone XL permit is ...