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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 09:41 AM Aug 2015

A Cop Killed A White Teen And The #AllLivesMatter Crowd Said Nothing

A Cop Killed A White Teen And The #AllLivesMatter Crowd Said Nothing
His name was Zachary Hammond.


On the evening of July 26, Zachary Hammond pulled into the parking lot of a Hardee's in Seneca, South Carolina. Seated next to him was a young woman who had arranged to meet someone there to sell a bag of weed. It's unclear what Hammond knew about the transaction, but neither the 19-year-old nor his passenger had any idea that the buyer was actually an undercover police officer. Moments later, another officer fatally shot Hammond.

What we know about how Hammond ended up dead in a minor marijuana sting depends on whom you believe.

Police say a uniformed officer, on hand to support the undercover cop, was approaching Hammond's vehicle. There's disagreement about what happened next. Seneca Police Chief John Covington says Hammond drove the car at the officer, who, fearing for his life, fired twice into the vehicle, shooting a fatal round into Hammond's upper torso. Eric Bland, a lawyer for Hammond's family, says that the officer shot Hammond twice from behind and that an autopsy supports this claim. More than a week after the shooting, Oconee County coroner Karl Addis -- one of the few people who should know for sure -- has still not said publicly which direction the bullets came from...


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A Cop Killed A White Teen And The #AllLivesMatter Crowd Said Nothing (Original Post) Stellar Aug 2015 OP
I wasn't sure talking about that would be well received here. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #1
When some say #BLM, then... Stellar Aug 2015 #2
Definitely agree that anyone claiming to believe ALM should be talking about it. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #3
You've got a point. :) Stellar Aug 2015 #8
I fully agree with that point. tosh Aug 2015 #7
Agreed. You can decry ALL excessive police violence w/o using "ALM." (nm) Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #18
Same here and it's sad. romanic Aug 2015 #21
Well of course not. Iggo Aug 2015 #4
First they came for... malaise Aug 2015 #5
You have a solid point Prism Aug 2015 #6
+1 Stellar Aug 2015 #9
This OP is repugnant. It tries to use the death of a white kid to...do what exactly? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #10
What ever you think it is... Stellar Aug 2015 #11
Thanks for that thoughtful response! You ought to trash that misbegotten OP. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #15
That to me is because the ALMs crowd, don't really care about lives. Xyzse Aug 2015 #12
I know I will get hammered for this tavernier Aug 2015 #13
I believe Black/White communities see things differently. Stellar Aug 2015 #14
Yes, I agree, tavernier Aug 2015 #16
Another issue was that the 75% black jury was perceived as... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #17
"acquitting on the basis of race, not on the evidence..." Stellar Aug 2015 #19
I just wish the two could better understand one another, because it was nothing like that. Stellar Aug 2015 #20
I wish that people would stop talking about "communities." yardwork Aug 2015 #23
Coroners should be more independent uponit7771 Aug 2015 #22
#AllLivesdontMatter ileus Aug 2015 #24
1. I wasn't sure talking about that would be well received here.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 10:47 AM
Aug 2015

White victims of police brutality are considered by many a distraction from brutality against blacks. I disagree with that assessment as I think the more effective argument for change is that we are all at risk from police abuse without reform. But if black people view that argument as offensive I'm not going to push it very hard.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
2. When some say #BLM, then...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:04 AM
Aug 2015

those that come back with #ALM should prove that it's not being said just to go against African Americans. Why aren't they doing something about it...to show that they care about that kid. I guess that was the point that the author was making.

3. Definitely agree that anyone claiming to believe ALM should be talking about it.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:16 AM
Aug 2015

But most people who've latched onto that phrase are merely saying that to give themselves the illusion of moral high ground while ignoring police brutality. Which is the point of the OP, and I agree with it. I was more talking about why I'm leary of talking about police brutality against whites these days. It doesn't seem to be constructive.

tosh

(4,424 posts)
7. I fully agree with that point.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:22 AM
Aug 2015

Both #BLM and Excessive Force <needs a good hashtag> need to be addressed head on right NOW. By their very nature, they have a huge intersection and they should never be pitted against one another, as #ALM seems to be intended to do.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
21. Same here and it's sad.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:51 AM
Aug 2015

I think in the end, regardless of whatever "hashtag" you ride or die for; human empathy should take over. We need to discuss every instance of police brutality regardless of color or "who if affects more".

malaise

(269,090 posts)
5. First they came for...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:20 AM
Aug 2015

then they came for me.

All silence is consent.
Why are they killing people over weed.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
6. You have a solid point
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 11:20 AM
Aug 2015

If All Lives Matter, then the people saying so would be highlighting all kinds of instances of police brutality.

And yet their spotify is all cricket songs.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. This OP is repugnant. It tries to use the death of a white kid to...do what exactly?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 12:50 PM
Aug 2015

Slam a nonexistent group? There is no #AllLivesMatter movement. The hideous phrase (uttered by many top Democrats before they were "educated&quot was simply a somewhat lame response to #BlackLivesMatter.

People who care about police brutality across color lines have noticed this killing.

The OP is just more divisive attack dog drivel.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
12. That to me is because the ALMs crowd, don't really care about lives.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:29 PM
Aug 2015

They just feel attacked that people are clamoring for some sort of equality, and tend to try to marginalize it by making it a generality, as if saying, "Why are you guys complaining? Everyone has the same problems." While not really looking at the severity and inequities involved.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
13. I know I will get hammered for this
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:37 PM
Aug 2015

but I know several people who still bring up the brutal OJ murders and their anger that the black community cheered and celebrated when he got off. I think that trial caused a deeper racial division than we will ever know.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
14. I believe Black/White communities see things differently.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:52 PM
Aug 2015

I think the black community saw OJ as innocent BUT expected the judge would pronounce him guilty and his azz would go straight to jail. They were surprised when that didn't happen and cheered to their shock and amazement that he was let go.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
16. Yes, I agree,
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

and the white community thought they were cheering because he slaughtered two white people. It wasn't the verdict so much as the cheering that caused bad feelings for a long time. As much as blacks were surprised at the verdict, whites were equally surprised that day to learn how much they were hated. It was an icy shower to many white people who had been under the misconception that everything was hunky dory, and race relations were no longer an issue.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
17. Another issue was that the 75% black jury was perceived as...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

...acquitting on the basis of race, not on the evidence. That's an oversimplification (obviously), but to acquit on that evidence does seem absurd, and suspecting other motivations isn't unreasonable.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
19. "acquitting on the basis of race, not on the evidence..."
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:45 AM
Aug 2015

It's funny too that juries that sentence African Americans to prison or death were seen as mostly white and AA's thought it was because of the color of their skin, f*** the evidence. Black folk were always finding themselves the ones on trial and going to jail compared to the rest of this country. That's why the surprise when OJ was acquitted.

btw: this BS about black folk voting for Obama because he was black was just that, BS.
I can tell you that Hillary had it in the bag until they (Clintons) started that racist crap against Obama. Believe me, AA's were paying particular attention to that election just to see how far Obama could go.









Stellar

(5,644 posts)
20. I just wish the two could better understand one another, because it was nothing like that.
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 08:49 AM
Aug 2015

btw: sorry for the late post. In answering other post, I didn't realize I had missed this thread.

yardwork

(61,670 posts)
23. I wish that people would stop talking about "communities."
Fri Aug 7, 2015, 09:07 AM
Aug 2015

Blaming black people for O.J. is ridiculous. That trial was ridiculous too. The prosecution blew it. By the end of it I'm sure that the jury was sick of the circus and resentful of the disruption of their lives. The O.J. trial stands out as a travesty and is representative of nothing.

When a black person does something, there is no fax machine that sends out a script to some mythical "black community." If you are white, when is the last time you felt that a random white person's actions represented your entire "community?"

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