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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:13 PM Aug 2015

Avi Lipkin: Jews Will Soon 'Face Death' In America, Must 'Flee To Israel'

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/avi-lipkin-jews-will-soon-face-death-america-must-flee-israel

In an interview with End Times radio broadcaster Jan Markell on Saturday, the Religious Right’s favorite Middle East “expert,” Avi Lipkin, claimed that President Obama has a secret plan to flood the country with Muslim terrorists who will then commit attacks that will push the world closer to the End Times, as American Jews are forced to either “flee to Israel” or “face death.”

“America is going to get spanked by ISIS,” Lipkin warned, “there will be terrorist attacks.” Such violence, however, may end up doing some good, he said, because it will lead to “a revival in this country in all Christian denominations.”

“And also I’m hoping the Jews will have a revival but actually I’m afraid that most Jews are going to have to flee to Israel or face death here,” Lipkin said, before returning to more encouraging news: “The Christians are going to stay here, the Christians are going to fight for their country, the pendulum will swing back to the right and America will remain the greatest country on earth if it chooses to be Christian.”

Earlier in the same interview, Lipkin shared with Markell the latest birther conspiracy theory about President Obama, this one involving a mailman.


Dear Avi: a) You're a nutjob , and b) there are as many Jews in the U.S. as there are in Israel. Are you seriously suggesting that Israel double its population overnight?
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Avi Lipkin: Jews Will Soon 'Face Death' In America, Must 'Flee To Israel' (Original Post) KamaAina Aug 2015 OP
Is this a joke? nt ladjf Aug 2015 #1
Nope, this is Avi Lipkin's career Scootaloo Aug 2015 #2
I wonder what he is trying to accomplish? The Jewish population in America ladjf Aug 2015 #4
Safer than in Europe, as a matter of fact KamaAina Aug 2015 #5
He's not talking to jews. He's talking to fundie christians. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #7
I've met this guy, and yes he really believes this crap. stevenleser Aug 2015 #3
The flaw in his thinking is if "somebody" wanted to kill us all... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #10
Is he an "end timer"? Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #12
I tried to get out of there once I realized how bonkers he was and so I don't know some details stevenleser Aug 2015 #13
So basically he is a few people short of a minyan? Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #14
Yes, about 9.95 people short of a minyan. stevenleser Aug 2015 #15
Curious Mr Lesser, if he is affiliated with the Messianic Jews for Jesus people. misterhighwasted Aug 2015 #19
"Let's flee TO the middle east for safety", said nobody ever ck4829 Aug 2015 #6
Is this man running for American President on the GOP Insane Train ticket, because he sounds just like all of them? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #8
He'd make a nice fit as VP for most of them KamaAina Aug 2015 #11
Never heard of him. Behind the Aegis Aug 2015 #9
The mailman birther story is quite interesting (in a fool's eye sort of way). . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #16
I have to wonder what drug you take for a mailman to magically confirm your suspicions ck4829 Aug 2015 #17
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #18
Avi Lipkin is a schmuck. COLGATE4 Aug 2015 #20
Meshuga! BigDemVoter Aug 2015 #21
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Nope, this is Avi Lipkin's career
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:19 PM
Aug 2015

Now, if you were asking whether Avi Lipkin himself is a joke...

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. Safer than in Europe, as a matter of fact
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:21 PM
Aug 2015

Disturbing echoes of the past are starting to rumble across the pond.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. He's not talking to jews. He's talking to fundie christians.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015

And the thing he is trying to accomplish is fire up those fundie Christians about "the end times,' and against Democrats.

Y'see, a core fundamentalist belief is a literal interpretation of the Book of Revelation (plus some pseudo-canonical Rapture bullshit from Cotton Mather and Tim LaHaye.) A major feature of this is an epic apocalyptic showdown between Israel and "Gog and Magog." And for this to happen, ALL THE JEWS have to be in Israel. And so, dipshits like this guy spend a surprising amount of time pumping fundie christians up about how bad things are for Jews and how they'll all be fleeing to Israel any day now and blah blah blah.

And if you're curious? Yes, this weird-ass theology is a major factor in the US relationship with Israel

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
3. I've met this guy, and yes he really believes this crap.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

I suppose it will come as no surprise to anyone that he is good buds with James David Manning, the homophobic and race-baiting pastor of the Atlah church in Harlem that many of us have been trying to get shut down.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. The flaw in his thinking is if "somebody" wanted to kill us all...
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:27 PM
Aug 2015

The flaw in his thinking is if "somebody" wanted to kill us all it would make sense to get us all in one place.


Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
12. Is he an "end timer"?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:30 PM
Aug 2015

I don't think I have ever met a Jew, even among the most devout and orthodox, who was engrossed in the Christian version of the end times. He sounds positively nutty.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. I tried to get out of there once I realized how bonkers he was and so I don't know some details
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:34 PM
Aug 2015

of his beliefs.

I mentioned my father was a survivor of the shoah and then all the crazy came out of him that Liberals and Democrats were trying to allow that to happen here, etc. He didn't realize I was a Democrat.

Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
14. So basically he is a few people short of a minyan?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:40 PM
Aug 2015


I have noticed an increase in the Holocaust references from all quarters of late; rather creepy in my opinion. Given the state of the US, I highly doubt it would be an issue here, even among liberals and democrats. Now, if the cards were stacked in favor of the conservatives and republicans, that's another story.

Since I have never heard of him, I googled his name and read some of his "articles" and listened, briefly, to a few of his "talks". This man is seriously deluded. I also couldn't get over the fact that at sites where he is being "praised", they constantly refer to his wife as a "Jewess." Has that term ever been a positive description of a female Jewish person?
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. Yes, about 9.95 people short of a minyan.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:42 PM
Aug 2015

He wanted to come on my show and talk about this. I know the Rude One and I would have a lot of fun with him but I just don't think it would have been good for the show.

And no, I have never heard of "Jewess" used other than in Nazi/neoNazi references to Jewish women.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
19. Curious Mr Lesser, if he is affiliated with the Messianic Jews for Jesus people.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

I know of a family who followed End Times to the letter. They were told that if they join Jews for Jesus and study & practice as the Jewish people do, they would be able to use their knowledge of Christianity to then convert Jews to Christianity.
It's an odd concept but there are many who have followed that thinking and this family I knew, did just that.
They went from full cult End Timers to speaking, studying and supporting all Jewish holidays, functions, and attire, within a two week time frame.
It was the craziest thing I have seen.

Have you heard of this conversion of End Timers to Jewish?

ck4829

(35,078 posts)
6. "Let's flee TO the middle east for safety", said nobody ever
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:22 PM
Aug 2015

And he's suggesting to flee to a country that not only has ISIS around it's borders, but also is apparently fighting rising aggression from it's own extremist settler population?

Just stick to the birther stuff, dude. That sounds slightly less crazy by comparison.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Is this man running for American President on the GOP Insane Train ticket, because he sounds just like all of them?
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:25 PM
Aug 2015
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. He'd make a nice fit as VP for most of them
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:27 PM
Aug 2015

well, not Trump, who's leaning toward Caribou Barbie.

He'd be like a repuke version of LIEberman.

Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
9. Never heard of him.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:26 PM
Aug 2015

Sounds like he is a lunatic. Jews will face the same anti-Semitic bullshit we always have, more if the economy tanks, but it is highly unlikely we will be "facing death" here. Looking at some of his other "musings", he seems to be engulfed in Christian mythology, especially concerning the "end times" and Satan. It almost appears as if he is carrying water for the end-timers. Very strange.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
16. The mailman birther story is quite interesting (in a fool's eye sort of way). . .
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:49 PM
Aug 2015
On Saturday’s edition of “Understanding the Times,” End Times radio broadcaster Jan Markell spoke to Avi Lipkin, the far-right conspiracy theorist who believes that President Obama is working for Saudi Arabia and the Illuminati to bring 100 million Muslims to America and to spark nuclear war. Thanks to such incredible insights, Lipkin has now emerged as the preferred Middle East expert among Religious Right activists like Markell, who asked him about his meeting with a former postman of Bill Ayers’ parents.

This postman told the birther website WorldNetDaily that the parents of Bill Ayers, the former Weather Underground member who later became a University of Illinois professor with a passing acquaintance to the future president, regularly hosted a “black foreign-exchange student” who was “from either Kenya or Indonesia” with a “strange name” back in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

“He told me he had taken the train out from Chicago and had come to thank the Ayers family personally for having helped him with his education,” the mailman recalled. “He looked right at me and told me he was going to be president of the United States…. It came across as if this young black male was telling me he was going to be president, almost as if it were the statement of a scientific fact that had already been determined, as if his being president had been already pre-arranged.”

As it turned out, Lipkin met the very same postman: “He said to me, he was there every day and he saw this black man there every day. ‘Who are you?’ ‘Oh, I am going to be president of the United States.’” Lipkin cited this postman’s story as proof that Obama is part of a greater “agenda” to “socialize America” and “make it a Muslim country.”

- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/avi-lipkin-mystery-mailman-knows-obama-communist-muslim-plant#sthash.QY4hyEed.dpuf

So I'm confused: Is Obama a successful Manchurian Candidate, or a Stepford President?

ck4829

(35,078 posts)
17. I have to wonder what drug you take for a mailman to magically confirm your suspicions
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

It must be similar to DMT, where people report seeing the 'machine elves' telling them various things about the nature of life and the universe.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
20. Avi Lipkin is a schmuck.
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

In the words of the great Mel Brooks in Spaceballs, he 'needs to go back to the golf course and work on his putz.'

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