$13,500 to Kill Sacred White Buffalo in Texas—Can This Be True?

[KamaAina]

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/03/05/13500-kill-sacred-white-buffalo-texas-can-be-true-101355

American Indians across the internet are flocking to the website of Texas Hunt Lodge today—and not because they're planning a hunting trip. No, they're alarmed by a page on the site dedicated to the White Buffalo Hunt Package, which advertises a chance to kill a white buffalo for $13,500.

White buffaloes are sacred animals to the Lakota Sioux and other Native groups, and there aren't a lot of the creatures around. When one was born last year in Greenville, Texas, it was an occasion for much rejoicing. An article in the British newspaper Daily Mail extensively covered the naming ceremony of Lightning Medicine Cloud. That report said that "Lightning Medicine Cloud, whose name is also a tribute to a white buffalo born in 1933, named Big Medicine, is thought—in Lakota Sioux tradition—to be the third of its kind ever born."

Texas Hunt Lodge allows the opportunity to hunt and harvest the Authentic and Rare White Buffalo. ... There are no seasonal restrictions on hunting the White Buffalo, or White Bison, in Texas, which makes it a suitable trophy year round.

We typically let our hunters choose the method of hunting White Buffalo that they prefer. Hunters of White Buffalo can choose the Spot and Stalk method, Bow Hunting, Rifle Hunting, Black Powder, Safari Style Hunting, Handgun, as well as hunting from a Blind. We can accomodate hunters of any age and experience level, as well as hunters which have physical disabilities or may be confined to a wheelchair.

If your dentist suddenly cancels your upcoming appointment, be afraid. Be very afraid.

[bobalew]

1. This is why we can't have nice things, on our planet.

Some A-hole has to kill it because his genitalia is too small & he has to make up for it.

[pipoman]

2. I would assume they would sell the animal alive for the same money?

[Travis_0004]

3. Why don't the native americans buy it an transport it to their reservation?

Its just a buffalo, that there are thousands of, and I don't really have a problem with them being hunted in reasonable numbers. If this one is sacred, I think the native Americans should be allowed to buy it and transport it to a safe area.

Cows are sacred to indians, but that won't stop me from having a steak tomorrow. (also, buffalo jerky taste very good if you ever get a chance to try it)

[jwirr]

6. White buffaloes are not plentiful. Albino animals of all kinds are very rare. They should be viewed

as endangered species.

As the archivist at a museum in NE MN I found a very old picture of several white moose. They were carefully guarded.

But we have lost all sense of protecting our way of life. All we know anymore is kill, kill, kill.

[Travis_0004]

7. There is nothing special about them

Sure they look nice, but they are not likely to have white offspring. Would it be cool in a zoo. Yes. Maybe a zoo should think about buying it then.

[jwirr]

9. Oh yes and there are thousands of them.

[Omaha Steve]

25. Like a Yellow Cardinal (protect the white buffalo)

http://10000birds.com/a-yellow-cardinal.htm

No, the Yellow Northern Cardinal is not another species of cardinal, just a rare genetic mutation of the ordinary Northern Cardinal. See some great images of one in Kentucky, along with a link to a paper than explains the phenomenon (PDF).

PDF info: http://biology.eku.edu/kos/kos_images/NOCA_pigments.pdf

[jberryhill]

28. They are inbred for this purpose

[pipoman]

10. They are not a species, they are a genetic anomaly

American bison are not wild anymore, they are farm animals.

Some albinos are actually very common..albino rodents are common..

[jberryhill]

27. This thinking is why people intentionall inbreed for "white tigers"

In tigers in particular, the recessive gene that causes white fur is crosslinked to a number of congenital defects.

But people ooh and ahh at the rare "white tiger", not knowing the ones that get thrown away:

http://bigcatrescue.org/abuse-issues/issues/white-tigers/

The ONLY way to produce a tiger or lion with a white coat is through inbreeding brother to sister or father to daughter; generation after generation after generation. The kind of severe inbreeding that is required to produce the mutation of a white coat also causes a number of other defects in these big cats.

[niyad]

20. you forgot the sarcasm thingy, yes?

[niyad]

21. just buy it, because they have so much spare change just hanging around.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. They could do a GoFundMe thing, and probably hit goal the first day.

There are plenty of allies who would donate.

[jberryhill]

29. And then the ranch inbreeds some more

and then what?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

32. If the ranch can inbreed more that easily, I'll be impressed.

They're extremely rare. I don't think the odds are as good as trying to inbreed for red hair in humans.

Edit: From the OP

That report said that "Lightning Medicine Cloud, whose name is also a tribute to a white buffalo born in 1933, named Big Medicine, is thought—in Lakota Sioux tradition—to be the third of its kind ever born."

So if this is one, it's the 4th one known, and you think they'll start popping number 5 immediately?

[jberryhill]

33. Then prepare to be impressed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_buffalo

Spirit Mountain Ranch donated the herd of white buffalo to Sacred World Peace Church and Alliance, and has successfully bred five generations of white buffalo starting from a single white female, almost all with brown fathers. Their herd includes fifteen white buffalo as of June 16, 2012

http://exoticanimalsforsale.net/sale/12103-Breeding-pairs-White-Buffalo.asp



http://www.livestock-forsale.com/posts/307-white-buffalo-breeding-pairs.asp

White buffalo breeding pairs for sale. Cow is pregnant and ready for transport to your home or ranch.



They are "extremely rare" under conditions of non-selective breeding.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

35. Ok, I'll change it to 'surprised'. I am surprised,

and the OP has misleading text, since that wiki entry lists far more than 3 even born without selective breeding.

And, btw, that wiki entry also explains why the outrage over the supposed poaching of one a few years back died off, since it states it actually died of a bacterial infection.

[jberryhill]

36. Yeah, I was surprised too

Years ago, one of my kids had a school assignment on "endangered animals" and was assigned "white tigers". He's a skeptical sort, more so than I am, and got pretty exercised over the whole "white tiger" business by the time it was done.

Clearly, it appears there is just as much nonsense and fuckery about "white buffalo".

True fact, a relative of mine thought the zebras in Tijuana were really zebras:





Ah yes, the rare harness-broken zebras of Mexico. Considered sacred for decades in Tijuana...

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

38. Speaking of surprising, that young girl on the painted donkey

is wearing a hat that says 'lolita'? Why do I have the feeling whoever she was traveling with was on the seedy side?

[jberryhill]

39. The "seedy side"? In Tijuana?

Tijuana, otherwise known as the "City of Moral Rectitude"?

The other hat choices appear to be a reference to tequila, and another to being drunk.

But, yes, amid the splendor of cheap prescription drugs sold without a prescription, and men beckoning others into strip joints operating as prostitution clearinghouses, it appears that someone may not have been adequately safeguarding morality here!

I agree "Lolita" is clearly legible on her hat next to the poorly-draped loinclothes of the otherwise naked men in the backdrop.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

40. Ah, good point.

Never been anywhere special to seek debauchery, there's plenty around everywhere from what I've seen.

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. And who is topping the bidding?

Seriously though, they should let the Sioux have it.

[pipoman]

13. The Sioux should buy it if they want it...

[Juicy_Bellows]

14. I suppose so - if it is made available to purchase, which I doubt.

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I'll look into it more.

Nothing for the Bronson White Buffalo reference? I'm saddened.

[herding cats]

5. A quick google showed that's not the only one.

These other two came up right away.

http://www.oxhuntingranch.com/texas/white-buffalo-hunting/

http://www.squawmountainranch.com/whitebuffalohunts.html

From what I can tell, they're selling hunts for ranch raised, specifically bred "cattle" for upwards to 15K each. Wow. That's pretty messed up and says as much about them as it does about the fools who pay that to go kill a ranch raised buffalo. smdh. Some people are so weird, and not in a good way.

[jwirr]

8. Great white hunters killing tame ranch raised animals for fun. Very sad.

[herding cats]

12. It's sick.

The first link in my previous post advertises a "100% Success Guarantee."

It's like they're saying, because we know you suck, so we'll feed the fellow in the usual spot, at the usual time, and all you have to do is sit there and wait for him to show up for his dinner. Then you can pretend to your friends how you're such a great hunter for killing what is basically a domestic animal.

[jwirr]

15. Exactly. Unfortunately that is what hunting has come down to today. Trapping an animal so that

you can shot it without the animal having even a chance of escape.

[pipoman]

16. I was invited and attended a "canned hunt" 20 years ago

It was a bird hunt. Pheasants and chuckar partridge raised in a chicken coop and placed around an 80 acre farm the morning of the "hunt". Before the hunt we had to practice of coarse. We stood on a deck..there were around 10 of us, 8 of them were insurance company executives who hunt twice a year...then my dad and I who used to subsistence hunt...I digress...we are standing on the deck, there is a trap thrower under the deck...the "guide" yelled "pull" and a live pigeon came out....I couldn't believe my eyes...yep, they loaded live pigeons into a tube mounted on a trap and threw them for us to shoot....after this I declined several invitations to go with them again....

[herding cats]

17. Ugh.

I don't know much about how those things are done. Which makes what you said all the more disgusting to me. That's just lining up to shoot at a living creature which was set up to be your victim. How...unsportsmanlike of them.

Good on you for declining their future invitations! Integrity is something money can't buy.

[Beaverhausen]

11. That's from 2012

I'm glad this horrible practice us finally getting the exposure it is.

[madville]

18. The Hindus just be really offended as well

Since we slaughter tens of millions of cows every year in the U.S.

At least I bet this white buffalo has led a nice life on that ranch, up until the end anyway I guess.

[KamaAina]

22. False equivalence

food >> trophy.

[Skittles]

19. cowards will kill anything

[okasha]

23. There are a number of misconceptions in this thread.

The sacred white buffalos are not albinos. They have dark eyes and skin. Lightning Medicine Cloud, Miracle and others have been born on working ranches, not game farms, and have been DNA tested to determine that they are not buffalo/domestic cattle hybrids.

What these assholes are advertising are very probably buffalo/domestic crosses. Not that that makes them any less assholes, but if so, the victims are not sacred to Native Americans.

[KamaAina]

41. Wait a minute. Bison and cattle can crossbreed?

That could be a game-changer for the meat industry!

[okasha]

42. It already is.

Not all those "buffalo burgers" are pure bison.

[McCamy Taylor]

24. Is this a prank?

[A HERETIC I AM]

30. Do I hear fourteen?

HEYAMAGIBBANOWAFOURDEE A FOURDEEFIVE GONNA GET FIFTEEN. IMA GETDA FOURDE DA FOURDEE GETTA FOURDEEFIVE GIMMEEE FIFDEEN. GOTTA NICE WHITE BUFFLO DA SHOOTWHADDYAGIVEFORIT?


Sorry.


Lost control there for a sec.

[A HERETIC I AM]

31. SOLD! To the asshole dentist from wherever...number 35 I think.....That guy,,,,,,

the smarmy lookin fuckhead.....right there.......35 ...holding paddle 35...yeah...the one with the two federal marshals guarding him.



Asswipe.

[DrDan]

34. "harvest" - such a santitary expression to refer to killing

[BlueJazz]

37. I plan to go hunting. Publix is having a sale.