FACEPALM: DNC fails AGAIN!

[Cosmic Kitten]

What exactly is the DNC's "responsibility"?

Aside from presiding over staggering losses
of Congressional seats, governorships, and
a continually pushing tired and ineffective
"messaging" what have they achieved?

To wit:
The DNC prepares lose ANOTHER Gubernatorial election

Unknown truck driver wins nomination for Democratic Miss. gov

Robert Gray’s win in the Democratic primary for Mississippi governor surprised everyone — including himself.

Gray, a 46-year-old truck driver, didn’t even vote for himself, saying he was too busy, according to The Associated Press.

Despite being mostly unknown in the state, he defeated party-backed front-runner Vicki Slater in the Tuesday election.

“It wasn't too much campaigning," Gray told Mississippi Public Broadcasting of his win.

He will go on to face incumbent Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant in the general election this fall.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/other-races/250383-unknown-truck-driver-wins-democratic-miss-gov-nomination

FIRE DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ NOW!

Who remembers Alvin Green?

Alvin Michael Greene (born August 30, 1977) is a Democrat from South Carolina. He was the Democratic Party's nominee in the 2010 United States Senate election in South Carolina. He was defeated by incumbent Republican Sen. Jim DeMint by a margin of 61.46% to 27.65%, with most of the remaining votes going to Green Party candidate and environmental activist Tom Clements.[1] He was the first African-American to be nominated for U.S. Senate by a major party in South Carolina.[2][3] In the general election, Greene faced DeMint, Green Party candidate Tom Clements and write-in candidates Nathalie Dupree[4] and Mazie Ferguson.[5] Greene won the Democratic primary race against candidate Vic Rawl[6] on June 8, 2010, with 59% of the vote, despite very limited campaigning and campaign spending, and having no website and no yard signs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Greene

Expect yet another blowout loss in Mississippi.
You can thank the DNC/DWS!

[haikugal]

1. It's almost intentional...but then it would be a CT, or would it?

Why is it so quiet around here today, is everyone exhausted from playing GOP Bingo?

[Cosmic Kitten]

5. Probably hung over?

Anyone drinking while listening
to republican propaganda would
have been smashed by the debate end

[haikugal]

15. So true..

I'd have to be smashed just to tune in, and even then I'd fall asleep.

[daleanime]

55. That why I didn't tune in....

I'm sure I would have smashed my TV, which I can't afford to replace.

[haikugal]

57. Yep, same here...my blood pressure is high enough! nt

[tblue37]

66. Almost nt

[Historic NY]

2. Wait its her fault how about the state leadership....

and then again there this pesky thing both of them were open primary states. I have to believe in both case more Pukes showed up then Democrats. There's a pretty good bet they were put up too.

[Cosmic Kitten]

6. What is the DNC responsibility?

[arcane1]

28. I assumed their responsibility was to keep the party from becoming too progressive n/t

[brooklynite]

29. Not to pick candidates...

...that would be DGA (Democratic Governor's Association), headed by Gov. Steve bullock of Montana.

The job of the Chair of the DNC is largely to raise money, support the State Party structures, and to chair the DNC planning process (primary scheduled, convention planning, etc.)

[Vincardog]

51. You mean it is not to support the favored candidate by limiting debates and thus not exposing her

Corporate friendly positions?

Clutch my pearls

[MADem]

54. It's not to pick gubernatorial candidates for state elections--that's what the state party machine

does.

[Fred Sanders]

3. I have no problem with actual voting folks choosing a common folk candidate over the party favorite.

Tell me people arent tired of the status quo? Maybe it is time to kick out the lawyers, businessmen and professional politicians who care for nothing but themselves?

By the way, like Obama, the national DNC chair is also not all knowing and all powerful.

If one is going to continue attacking because....reasons....one may want to try using an actual thing the person has some control over?

[Cosmic Kitten]

7. OK, So elect Bernie over the status quo Hillary!

Can you concede that the democratic nominee
has zero chance against the republican machine?

Yet another squandered opportunity!
Thanks DNC
Thanks DWS

[pnwmom]

50. It's not Debbie's responsibility to pick candidates for Governor. And it's a total joke

to act like MISSISSIPPI, reddest of the red states, was another "squandered opportunity."

Get real.

[geek tragedy]

4. this isn't the DNC's fault it's the Mississippi state party's fault

[Cosmic Kitten]

8. What is the DNC responsibility?

It will be yet ANOTHER LOSS
while DWS chairs the DNC.

So far the DNC has presided over
how many lost seats and governorships?

[ananda]

9. Agree, we lost so much when Howard Dean was forced out!

..

[bahrbearian]

11. Forced out without even a "thank you"

[geek tragedy]

12. DNC is responsible for national stuff that's why it's called the democratic NATIONAL committee

[Cosmic Kitten]

14. Really? Then why do they say this...

The DNC also raises money, hires staff, and coordinates strategy to support candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office.

Additionally, the Committee works with various constituencies to respond to the needs and views of Democrats across the nation.

https://www.democrats.org/organization/the-democratic-national-committee

What about "local, state, and national office" is confusing you?

DWS does not need any apologists,
and the DNC knows it sucks at its responsibilities

We are and will always be the party of the people. And we believe that economic and political wellbeing goes hand-in-hand.

We have suffered devastating losses at all levels of government since 2008 including:
- 69 House Seats
- 13 Senate Seats
- 910 State Legislative Seats
- 30 State Legislative Chambers
- 11 Governorships
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/democratic_victory_task_force_preliminary_findings.pdf

[geek tragedy]

16. it's not the DNC's job to pick winners and losers in PRIMARY contests

[Cosmic Kitten]

19. Hmm? Is that writen anywhere?

DWS is limiting exposure of our candidates
by holding 6 debates, starting in October.

Seems she doesn't mind putting her
thumb on the scale for the "front runner"

You seem very invested in defending
the indefensible

They don't pick winners and losers bwahahahaha

[jeff47]

22. It's the DNC's job to make sure the state party puts up someone better

than a truck driver who didn't even bother to vote for himself.

[geek tragedy]

23. how so? what authority does the DNC have over

primary voters in Mississippi?

[jeff47]

25. DNC has authority over the state party.

Apparently, the state party is so dysfunctional that this is the result - a roster of such shitty candidates that this guy won.

It's the DNC's job to oversee the state parties. And they've got an obviously incompetent state party here. It's the DNC's job to fix that.

[geek tragedy]

26. Legally the DNC does not have authority over the state party, other way around.

State parties elect the DNC head.

The state parties are independent of the national party and the national party can't tell them what to do.

[tkmorris]

63. I'm sorry geek, but this just isn't accurate

The DNC can and DOES exert quite a lot of influence on candidates at the state level, when it wants to. What is clear here is that they didn't bother. They wrote the state off. Is that wise? Would it be a waste of scarce resources to push for, and back financially, a stronger candidate? Maybe. That's certainly an argument that could be made.

To say however that the DNC did nothing because they COULDN'T is just not true. They could have, they just didn't.

[Cosmic Kitten]

34. What authority? Wrong question.

They have a RESPONSIBILITY to
WIN ELECTIONS.

They are FAILING in their RESPONSIBILITY

[geek tragedy]

36. it makes no sense to talk of responsibility when there's no authority to do anything nt

[yeoman6987]

27. But the DNC was supporting the other candidate

I am sure they thought that person would win. The voters said otherwise.

[Cosmic Kitten]

37. If they did support the other candidate they REALLY SUCK

Seriously, if the DNC lost to
an apathetic unknown,
they are worse than inept


Why does DNC/DWS have ANY credibility?

Surely their misplaced "confidence"
will end badly for democrats in
the 2016 general election.

[haikugal]

17. ^^^^this^^^^

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. For those defending DWS ineptitude

The Democratic National Committee, or DNC, was created during the Democratic National Convention of 1848. For 167 years, it’s been responsible for governing the Democratic Party and is the oldest continuing party committee in the United States.

The Committee, which plans the Party’s presidential nominating convention and promotes the Democratic Platform, the statement of core principles at the heart of our Party, is governed by its Charter and Bylaws.

The DNC also raises money, hires staff, and coordinates strategy to support candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office.

Additionally, the Committee works with various constituencies to respond to the needs and views of Democrats across the nation.

Under the leadership of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the DNC is composed of the chairs and vice-chairs of each state Democratic Party Committee and over 200 members elected by Democrats in all 50 states and the territories.
https://www.democrats.org/organization/the-democratic-national-committee

[n2doc]

13. Thank you n/t

[Historic NY]

18. Its a primary election, you do realize how that works...

apparently the voters picked this guy over the candidate that raised the most money. What does that tell you.......its either she didn't get the message out or GOP veoters in the opne primary showed up while Democrats didn't. In you think the DNC should be in the primary horse race, its doesn't work that way. This is a state office.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2015/08/05/dems-wonder-happened-governor-primary/31189825/

[Cosmic Kitten]

20. You should read what the DNC says about itself!

The DNC says explicitly they DO get involved
in local and state elections

The DNC also raises money, hires staff, and coordinates strategy to support candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office.

Additionally, the Committee works with various constituencies to respond to the needs and views of Democrats across the nation.

https://www.democrats.org/organization/the-democratic-national-committee

In you think the DNC should be in the primary horse race, its doesn't work that way. This is a state office.

So the DNC isn't trying to WIN that Mississippi governorship?
They let an apathetic truck driver win the nomination?
AND you are defending that?



So when the republicans win that election,
you can send DWS a congratulatory note
for the fabulous job she's doing!

[Ichingcarpenter]

32. Bring back Tim Kaine............LOL

He's as inept as Obama's second choice to lead the party.
Boy that 2010 election lead the way for Debbie to follow.

[Cosmic Kitten]

38. Looks like the DNC is hollowing out the party?

[Ichingcarpenter]

48. Her work in Florida with democrats and her control of the debates

say its all just one big coincidence.



“When two things occur successively we call them cause and effect if we believe one event made the other one happen. If we think one event is the response to the other, we call it a reaction. If we feel that the two incidents are not related, we call it a mere coincidence. If we think someone deserved what happened, we call it retribution or reward, depending on whether the event was negative or positive for the recipient. If we cannot find a reason for the two events' occurring simultaneously or in close proximity, we call it an accident. Therefore, how we explain coincidences depends on how we see the world. Is everything connected, so that events create resonances like ripples across a net? Or do things merely co-occur and we give meaning to these co-occurrences based on our belief system?

[fbc]

21. Thanks a lot Obama!

seriously.

Appointing DWS to DNC chair was his doing.


(not serously like I'm seriously thanking him, but seriously as in my accusation/criticism is serious)

[Cosmic Kitten]

24. I wonder why He left her in that position despite staggering losses?

[47of74]

30. Well the party backed runner probably would've lost too.

Might as well shoot crap at this point.

[HFRN]

33. Truck driver (and alcoholic to boot) Harold Hughs was Iowa Gov and US Senator

don't underestimate this guy

[RBInMaine]

35. Do you really think ANY Dem would have won that race? Get real.

[Cosmic Kitten]

41. Which race?

A democrat should win a "democratic primary"?

As to DeMint...
Alvin Greene was an example of DNC incompetence.

How he won election WITHOUT a website, lawn signs,
or campaign infrastructure is unfathomable.

The DNC did not even try to win that election.
Proof they cannot and will not fight a 50 state strategy.

[Agnosticsherbet]

39. Gray 146,143 votes, Slater 86,715 votes, Short 53,819 votes

http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/05/mississippi-truck-driver-who-didnt-vote-because-he-was-out-of-town-wins-democratic-primary/#ixzz3i9D1rjbt

I found reports that turnout was low, but no real numbers.

They use Touch And Vote machines, without, as far as I can tell, a paper trail.

http://www.touchandvote.ms.gov/

Could they have been hacked?

[Cosmic Kitten]

42. Tampering of any and all kinds is suspect.

Ive questioned local election officials
about voting apparatus and they are
frighteningly uninformed and
technologically ignorant.

They seem to believe in the absolute
certainty in technology they don't comprehend...
and they are mostly older retirees who can barely
operate a PC, forget them comprehending smart phones

[Agnosticsherbet]

44. Thanks. This looks like a successful attempt to pick an opponent

that can be defeated.

Two highly qualified women beaten by a man who no one knew.

It just sounds wrong to me.

[questionseverything]

64. it is not really hacked tho

more a pre determined result

[RBInMaine]

40. Recent state legislative special election Dem WINS in Maine and PA. Does DNC get credit?

DNC doesn't decide state office primaries. Your argument is VERY weak. DNC only supports candidates very broadly in state and local elections. Those are mainly up to states and localities. DNC had nothing to do with this primary situation in Mississippi.

I do however agree, for other reasons, DWS STINKS as head of DNC.

[Cosmic Kitten]

43. PA is swinging LEFT, so no suprise or credit to the DNC

Tom Corbet and fracking
have turned that electorate
off of republicans.

I'm confident Paul LePage
is doing the same in Maine.

So, the DNC doesn't get much
"credit" as the tide is turning in those states.

A democratic PRIMARY is a very different election.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

45. PART of their responsibility is to call all talk of voter fraud "woo"....

Republicans beat them fair and square every time.

Move along.

[Cosmic Kitten]

58. lol? I think you intended to say ELECTION FRAUD?

??? <sarcasm thingy>

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. They equate the two....

In the spirit of "compromise".

[stonecutter357]

46. .

[stonecutter357]

47. I love DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ

keep up the good work, you are pissing off all the right people.

[Cosmic Kitten]

60. Good work supporting REPUBLICAN friends?

Good work supporting criminalization of Cannabis
Which disproportionately affects PoC which
leads to incarceration and voter disenfranchisement.

It's interesting to see who and what you support

[stonecutter357]

65. is that a Rand quote?

[eridani]

67. Because supporting Republicans is exactly what a Florida Democrat should do?

Why should any Democrat be upset about Democrats supporting Republicans?

[SoapBox]

49. DNC and DWS...entrenched in a bubble and desperate to hang onto their power.

Just protecting themselves...and ignoring how their bubble is shrinking.

[blackspade]

52. So there is a Democratic clown car....

and it's driven by Wasserman-Schultz.

[Jack Rabbit]

53. Gee, what made you think of Alvin Green?

[dembotoz]

56. you do realize that in an uncontested primary the other side is fairly free to have fun screwing up

the other vote.....
prob some gop folks laughing in their beer because of all the money and effort they no longer have to make

[Cosmic Kitten]

61. OK, so where was the DNC STRATEGY to deal with the problem?

While you maybe correct, as Mississippi
has open primaries, it does little to dispel
the notion that the DNC/DWS is inept or worse.

The is ZERO hope of winning the Governors mansion
since they FAILED to prevent this from happening.

So far the DNC is flipping off the democratic base
and doing nothing of substance.

Their "Victory Task Force Report" was supposed
to change this exact problem... nothing

STRENGTHENING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
It is clear that Americans overwhelmingly support the people and issues that the Democratic Party
fights for every day. Our work in support of equality in all areas – personal, wage, marriage, justice – was
endorsed by Americans when they supported ballot measure after ballot measure that were focused on
ensuring that this is a country for all.
We have suffered devastating losses at all levels of government since 2008 including:
- 69 House Seats
- 13 Senate Seats
- 910 State Legislative Seats
- 30 State Legislative Chambers
- 11 Governorships

Yet we know how to win elections. Elections in 2006, 2008, 2012 and ballot initiatives and other races this last cycle demonstrate that our issues and candidates resonate with voters. Through its examination of the last several election cycles, the Democratic Victory Task Force has identified areas for the DNC to strengthen its work and win elections in both presidential and midterm elections including:

•Having a clear, values-based narrative that unites us as Democrats and engages and appeals to the broadest swath possible of the American electorate.
•Creating strong accountable partnerships with active Democrats and all those who share our values in all 57 states and territories and Democrats Abroad.
•Proactively protecting and expanding every American’s right to vote.
•Building a three-election strategy for redistricting – at the state and federal level.
•Identifying and promoting the next generation of Democratic leaders, including citizen activists from a cross-section of backgrounds and walks of life
http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/democratic_victory_task_force_preliminary_findings.pdf

FAIL!

[Cosmic Kitten]

62. Did you consider Robert Gray is a republican patsy?

Completely woo, but if you want to suggest
republican meddling, why wouldn't repubs
promote a patsy?

[Babel_17]

68. When it comes to the monied interests, we are a one party system

The DNC is not a failure in their eyes and thus may keep their jobs.