MSNBC this morning is all over Trump's "blood" remark about Megyn Kelly.

[CTyankee]

Jonathan Capehart subbing for Steve Kornacki was interviewing 3 panelists who clearly woke up to the overnight news about that comment. New formatting was in order, heh, heh.

Red States disinvited Trump to their big meeting just a few hours ago...it was too much even for them...

My print edition of the NY Times this morning ran a story about how badly the Republican debate went over with women but this latest gaffe happened after the paper went to print, so he was already in deep shit. And the shitstorm is just beginning...

I heard about it over coffee at about 7 am. I nearly choked on my Raisin Bran...

[exboyfil]

1. Well that did not take long

I thought the fun would roll on for just a little while longer. Trump serves as a stalking horse for the remaining crazies on the stage. He is more loony than Tom Akin.

[TheBlackAdder]

29. I took a Women In Politics course last year - MOST HERE ARE MISSING THE POINT!

.



Like it or not, about 45% of the women vote conservative, mainly because they hold deeply evangelical or religiously fundamental beliefs. This was exposed when Phyllis Schlafly (perhaps the most influential feminist -and yes, a conservative evangelical can be a feminist, since it promotes her view of feminism) amassed a coalition to stop the E.R.A.'s ratification.


Many women in the GOP accept or tolerate Trump's views, as they view the man as the head of household.


===


Having this discussion about how damaging Trump words are, completely ignores this odd but sustained dynamic.


The MSM's attacks on Trump further solidifies the belief that the political and media institutions are part of an establishment that act as gatekeepers to who choose who will be elected to office. The more the MSM struggles to defeat Trump, the more Trump will be seen as the 'outsider,' one being attacked by the power brokers.


Drudge, Free Republic and others hold an affinity to Trump. Newsmax's poll of the debate shows Trump won 65% of the vote. While many complain about Trump, he is the abomination that FOX News and the conservative media sources created. He is reflective of the new political base that conservative media and politicos molded over the past decade. Average conservative males in these households hold this view, many of the females hold the same view. While some women will hide their thoughts from their husbands--they don't think like most of us. They DO hold those second citizen positions.

In recap: Don't dismiss this phenomenon as a fleeting moment. This will be a sustained position that might make or break certain conservative media sources and pundits.



.

[randome]

34. Agreed. We can no longer automatically assume (if we ever could)...

...that these kind of insulting remarks will be the death knell for anyone. Trump is another Palin but without the 'baggage' of being female, and thus more easily dismissed by the Conservative mindset.

It's like Spock trying to use logic to combat someone who has his fingers in his ears and is yelling, "What? What? I can't hear you! What?"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]

[smirkymonkey]

39. Thanks for the info. Good to know.

I guess we can't assume that all female voters think for themselves. Some just swallow the bullshit they have been fed since childhood and go on to maintain the status quo like obedient little sheep.

[niyad]

45. by no definition of the word can schlafly be called a feminist.

[TheBlackAdder]

46. One would naturally think that, but there are many forms of feminism.

.

The political references to feminism differ from the Meriam-Webster version.

It does not include equal rights, that's just one variant of the term.

Schlafly promoted the conservative vision of feminism.

.

[niyad]

49. conservative feminism is an oxymoron.

[TheBlackAdder]

53. So is Jumbo Shrimp. There are thousands at oxymoronlist.com

[cilla4progress]

51. But he's not even conservative!

Or is he?

Who the hell knows or really cares.

By and large I'm ignoring him until he goes away. He is not to be taken seriously and certainly is not the real threat to a Democratic presidency. He is a distraction, and a very pathetic one at that.

[livetohike]

2. Where are the comments from the other Presidential candidates denouncing

Trump? I know it's early, but crass comments like this from a Presidential candidate should elicit some reaction.

[CTyankee]

13. It is likely they are in shock, if not a coma...what CAN you say?

Michael Steele looks like he wants to vomit in the panel with Capehart...poor Kathleen Sebelius looks highly embarrassed. Kasie Hunt is grinning from ear to ear from down in Atlanta for the Red States meeting...she is loving that she gets to be at the center of this right when it is happening...

Can't wait for Morning Joe Monday...I'd love to see Mika's face right about now...

[livetohike]

20. But Mika loves "The Donald". They give him so much coverage it's sickening. I will watch just to see

if they denounce him.

[CTyankee]

48. well,they want to be seen as "fair" so there will be outrage...I doubt if Joe will be so

cavalier in his response to this one. This is crude beyond belief.

[malaise]

30. A perfect description

of the hacks

[wheniwasincongress]

41. Mika is hardly a defender of women

she has a nice little side business going where she attempts to appear like the champion of women and career women...don't be fooled.

She and Joe love Trump (and Trump loves them, just yesterday on CNN he was saying about great they are and how Joe is a "great guy" ) they also know that they have to be nice to him to keep him on as a future guest

[Fred Sanders]

25. Denouncing Trump and the GOP for his and their racist anti-woman comments is a 24 hour a day operation.

Let them give themselves their own rope....they are destroying themselves just fine.

[brer cat]

3. I hope the shitstorm buries him

although he was a nice divisive addition to the clown car, and he always threw it in reverse.

[AlinPA]

4. Most GOP voters will love him for it. He will jump in the polls.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. Not most females.

I caught some of his comments before, but this was the first time I'd heard the 'She's bleeding from somewhere else' line or however he said it. As if the other misogynistic crap he was saying wasn't bad enough, to basically dismiss Megyn Kelly's questions as being because she was menstruating? Wow, just wow. I didn't think my opinion of Trump could go lower, but he managed it.

[AlinPA]

10. He is a real slob, and fits perfectly with most GOP voters.

[countingbluecars]

5. I hope they are also discussing

the hypocrite Erick Erickson. A misogynist disinviting another misogynist.

[riversedge]

8. Bingo!!

[CTyankee]

16. He didn't look too happy on Capehart today...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

7. Erickson, Romney and the GOP loved Trump when he peddled racist birther lies

They embraced him 100 percent and commissioned him to do a video for the convention.



It's only when he turns on FOX that the right needs the smelling salts.

They own this fucker, and don't let anyone forget it.

[KingCharlemagne]

11. "Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue." ~La Rochefoucauld - nt

[gwheezie]

9. The Donald is their front runner

They like him. Let him speak. He stands for what they believe. They believe women are too irrational to have power because ovaries.

[KingCharlemagne]

17. The juxtaposition of The Donald with the image and quote of

Shirley Chisholm on your post should underline just how far America has fallen into the depths of depravity since the days of the magisterial Ms. Chisholm.

[greymattermom]

12. But she was very bitchy to him, right?

Isn't this a remark that tea party, i.e. middle school, guys would make?

[gwheezie]

14. The right wing loons can't help it

Women always fuck them up. Drives them crazy.

[Motown_Johnny]

15. "If It Bleeds, It Leads"

You know you were thinking it


Somebody had to say it.

[demmiblue]

18. Bottom feeders and hypocrites, the lot of them.

I have seen one GOP candidate respond... Carly Fiorina.

[gwheezie]

19. What a perfect set up for Carly

Fox is clever. Watch the ratings when Carly is on stage with the Donald.

[kairos12]

21. I hope he goes Ross Perot on the rethugs. Serves them all right.

[IDemo]

22. Did I call it, or not?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7039983

[CTyankee]

23. you sure did! Hats off to you IDemo!

[Hugin]

24. Well, I guess The Donald will simply have to run Independent.

Better for all concerned, wouldn't you agree?

[Agnosticsherbet]

26. Was this a Right Wing Dean Scream?

Only time will tell for sure.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. That's why I am WATCHING CNN

Let the Republicans clean up their own mess.

[TheBlackAdder]

36. MSNBC is swinging to the Right - Now I have to question each host's agenda. nt

[fadedrose]

28. Kelly went out of her way to insult Trump

mentioning every word he ever said about women and asking about his loyalty to the party nominee, etc., and it was apparent that the Republicans do not want someone they cannot control.

His blood remarks were politically incorrect, but for all we know, Megyn was having her period, and like it or not, women are a bit touchy... But Megyn wasn't that kind of touchy. Her job was to dump Trump.

She was masterful at it. The very first question she asked the group set the tone, and we don't know how it would have gone. That question should have been asked LAST.

I hope the Dems don't debate on FOX. With the luggage they have, it would be the finish for a couple of them with the no holds barred on remarks and questions.

[wheniwasincongress]

37. It was a legitimate question

and your comments on women being touchy and women's periods are so stupid I don't know where to begin. How is it relevant, even? It sounds like you "met a woman one time."

As for his comments, they were very publicly made on television and his Twitter, and it was fair of her to ask her question. The other candidates have not publicly made such crude remarks about women. (and these words she quoted are hardly "every word" he ever said about the women - there is a trove of remarks online, she only picked a few.)


and why are we assuming that the questions asked by the moderators were necessarily *their* own questions?

[smirkymonkey]

40. +1000

[Beaverhausen]

43. She wasn't the one who asked about party loyalty

I think it was Bret Baier.

And the rest of your post has already been addressed. I can't believe anyone here defends him.

[fredamae]

31. Today is day 8

of my "sobriety after (quitting MSM) Leaving M$NBC.
So, your post points to One reason Why.
In my opinion...they Could be focused upon the Lack of discussing the important issues of out time, like: Global Warming-Climate Change/TPP/Net Neutrality/Jobs/Wages Police Brutality/Racism/Wall Street-DC Corruption etc and their Plans to Fix all of it.

So, I see I am missing absolutely Nothing but "Distraction and Hard Core Fluff" to soothe the masses as If there is Nothing else More important.

[Glitterati]

32. Mr. "Abortion Barbie" thinks Trump is sexist?

Really?

The guy who coined Abortion Barbie for Wendy Davis? He's offended by something Trump said? Really?

Can you say "hypocrite from hell?"

[Jim__]

33. Looks like the Donald is trying to walk it back.

From twitter:

Re Megyn Kelly quote: "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever" (NOSE). Just got on w/thought

[Lex]

38. So why didn't he say nose?

He said "wherever" for a reason. He's so stupid.

[wheniwasincongress]

42. Why is there blood coming out of her nose?

did he punch her?

[woolldog]

44. Why was there blood coming out of her eyes?

I don't think Trump meant his "whatever" comment the way folks are interpreting it.

[bigdarryl]

47. That's a figure of speech

[liberal N proud]

52. That's the thing it not about what you say as much as about how others interpret what you say.

And once its crossed your lips, it isn't coming back.

[lonestarnot]

35. So Pee'rs are reduced to bodily fluid issues, the tired old semen v mensis bullshit.

How would these clucks ever be able to work on anything tough? Student loans, global warming, treatment of black men and women by police, guns, incarceration of America, poverty, infrastructure, death of our oceans. Piglicons are gross.

[Hubert Flottz]

50. There's blood this AM, but...

it's in the water. The other clowns are ready to chow down on the lead clown.