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AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:47 PM Aug 2015

People are developing dementia earlier and dying of it more, a study shows (Much more so in USA)

People are developing dementia earlier and dying of it more, a study shows (link to study below excerpt)

By Daniela Deane August 6

People are developing dementia a decade before they were 20 years ago, perhaps because of environmental factors such as pollution and the stepped-up use of insecticides, a wide-ranging international study has found.

The study, which compared 21 Western countries between the years 1989 and 2010, found that the disease is now being regularly diagnosed in people in their late 40s and that death rates are soaring.

The study was published in the Surgical Neurology International journal, and its findings publicized in the London Times newspaper Thursday.

The problem was particularly acute in the United States, where neurological deaths in men aged over 75 have nearly tripled and in women risen more than fivefold, the leader of the study, Colin Pritchard from Bournemouth University, told the London Times.

Scientists quoted in the study said a combination of environmental factors such as pollution from aircraft and cars as well as widespread use of pesticides could be the culprit, the newspaper reported.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/people-are-developing-dementia-earlier-and-dying-of-it-more-a-study-shows/2015/08/06/599b16b8-3c0a-11e5-8e98-115a3cf7d7ae_story.html

Article above relies on this study from the Surgical Neurology International:

http://surgicalneurologyint.com/surgicalint_articles/neurological-deaths-of-american-adults-55-74-and-the-over-75s-by-sex-compared-with-20-western-countries-1989-2010-cause-for-concern/
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People are developing dementia earlier and dying of it more, a study shows (Much more so in USA) (Original Post) AikidoSoul Aug 2015 OP
too much FOX gnus hollysmom Aug 2015 #1
Damn. Beat me to it. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #3
It came from a study, not Fox. The study was reported by the Washington Post AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #7
nonono annabanana Aug 2015 #15
Ooops. That escaped me. Must be my dementia although I never watch Faux "News" AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #19
Fox News is the anti-crosswords, anti-musicianship activity; hence pro-dementia Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2015 #25
I didn't accuse anyone of being a troll, I asked a question, which is perfectly legitimate. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #53
It's passive-aggressive to ask an insinuating question like that. As good as accusing. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2015 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2015 #62
Wow, another anti-science response and in less than 6 seconds. Guess you didn't read the study? AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #4
wow, lighten up who knows, maybe I lost it already. hollysmom Aug 2015 #13
I believe annabanana Aug 2015 #16
Not all the time, but probably when I'm discussing a AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #21
nope, she wasalways crazy, hollysmom Aug 2015 #26
But do you ever find your keys in the refrigerator? HubertHeaver Aug 2015 #27
mope,. try to keep mine dry as it has a battery operated fob. hollysmom Aug 2015 #29
I have an old car. No fob. HubertHeaver Aug 2015 #34
If you are serious about that arikara Aug 2015 #31
I lost my Dad to dementia - to me 840high Aug 2015 #32
we were losing my father that way as well but then! hollysmom Aug 2015 #39
That is a touching, heartbreaking story hollysmom. Many of us are going through AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #44
I'm sorry. arikara Aug 2015 #60
Hugs. 840high Aug 2015 #61
Animals get dementia too, and other neurological disorders AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #18
Fox is anti-science, not hollysmom. Your insinuations about paid trolling are knee-jerk. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2015 #64
Nobody here watches FOX! pocoloco Aug 2015 #35
And whatever they put in the food today. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #2
It's most likely whats in the AIR. Your olfactory pathway goes directly to your brain and that's AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #5
There was some scientific speculation a few years ago that beef eating was a factor. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #8
Many good points there. Unfortunately other animals are implicated AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #12
Dietary patterns have long been associated with decreasing cognitive decline Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #9
Good examples there AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #11
I'm happy wine is not on there, Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #72
good info Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #56
Big pharma playing a role? Over-medication? nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #6
It is definitely part of the picture. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #10
Thank you for this, my friend. Duppers Aug 2015 #58
The most relevant words are "could be". And these paragraphs... uppityperson Aug 2015 #14
There will always be skeptics, but there is no debate AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #23
My dad just died from dementia, his mom did also. I have a strong family trait and serious concerns uppityperson Aug 2015 #59
Envirotoxicity is under-appreciated for a very good reason. Octafish Aug 2015 #17
EXACTLY. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #24
They did the same for asbestos. Octafish Aug 2015 #28
we shouldn't call them dirty-cop whitecoats, we should call bad boys in blue "ACSH cops" MisterP Aug 2015 #40
Good point! The American Council on Science and Health is an industry whore, paid by industry. AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #46
they don't just cultivate spokespeople, their goal is to create an ideology and a climate of doubt MisterP Aug 2015 #49
cocktail of toxins and faux/reality tv. glinda Aug 2015 #20
Watch it turn out to be from bottled water. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #22
I Say RobinA Aug 2015 #71
Aluminum arikara Aug 2015 #30
Excellent post with excellent resources. Thank you Arikara AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #47
Thanks for all the info Person 2713 Aug 2015 #54
Perhaps the chemtrail worriers had a point. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #66
I never thought it was "woo" arikara Aug 2015 #67
Exactly. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #68
GMOs, increased diabetes etc. Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #33
When I was a kid living in New Jersey LibDemAlways Aug 2015 #36
Albuquerque was still spraying Malathion in the late 90's out of trucks going through neighborhoods womanofthehills Aug 2015 #42
I belong to several toxic injury groups and to the Collaborative for Health and the Environment AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #50
toxic injury womanofthehills Aug 2015 #65
Malathion's active ingredient is warfare agent called organophosphate AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #48
Google the Mind diet for prevention of Dementia classykaren Aug 2015 #37
Are there ways to prevent this? Deadshot Aug 2015 #38
Avoid pesticides, synthetic fragrances, toxic areas to live in, synthetic carpeting AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #52
Have you run into any fabrics or colors that react to the alcohol adversely ? Person 2713 Aug 2015 #55
Sorry to be so late answering. The answer is yes, some delicate fabrics AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #70
Thank you for all the info . Yes I already use Eco no dye fragrance Person 2713 Aug 2015 #73
It's diet. retrowire Aug 2015 #41
Aspertame in soda. Dawson Leery Aug 2015 #43
I think that, too. roamer65 Aug 2015 #45
'Murica, babeh d_b Aug 2015 #51
Certainly explains my experiences with Facebook. /nt Marr Aug 2015 #57
Look at the food supply. Trying watching Genetic Roulette, read Altered Genes, Twisted Skwmom Aug 2015 #69

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
7. It came from a study, not Fox. The study was reported by the Washington Post
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:04 PM
Aug 2015

Why do you people twist the truth to try to trash helpful scientific information.

Do you guys work for chem/pharm as blogging trolls?

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
15. nonono
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:21 PM
Aug 2015

poster was implying that FOX was toxic enough to cause dementia... that FOX is the pollutant..

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
19. Ooops. That escaped me. Must be my dementia although I never watch Faux "News"
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:57 PM
Aug 2015

Sorry I missed that one Annabanana.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
25. Fox News is the anti-crosswords, anti-musicianship activity; hence pro-dementia
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:11 PM
Aug 2015

So the DU member was spot on.

The Republican Party and Fox News are anti-science, anti-intelligence. They dumb down Americans by pandering to confirmation bias and using lots of propaganda tricks. It's all part of the Koch brothers tireless efforts to get Americans to think less and parrot stuff like denying anthropomorphic global warming.

Activities that help ward off dementia include learning new things and being open to new experiences such as new words (crossword puzzles, learning a language) and new patterns (playing music). All of that is eschewed by the couch potato class who consume Fox News like the bags of potato chips and fatty foods they love.

Your cheap attack calling a DU member a chem/pharm paid troll is really over-the-top. That's the kind of attack people make when they don't have anything substantive to add.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
53. I didn't accuse anyone of being a troll, I asked a question, which is perfectly legitimate.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:08 PM
Aug 2015

It is very common for chem/pharm to pay trolls to inhabit sites that discuss toxic injury. I've been on many toxic injury exchanges where there were real chem/pharm trolls. That is real, not my imagination.

I agree that learning a musical instrument, or writing music, doing puzzles, a new language, etc., keeps the mind alert and able to function at a higher level. However, synthetic neurotoxins do actual physical damage to the brain, most often the hippocampus when it comes to pesticides. That kind of damage is irreversible.

And yet, the brain is very plastic and can alter its functioning so that other parts of the brain take up jobs formerly done by the damaged parts.



Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
63. It's passive-aggressive to ask an insinuating question like that. As good as accusing.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:44 AM
Aug 2015

You had and have no evidence of paid trolling other than you didn't like the opinion so you jump to as good as accusing a DU member of corruption.

Response to AikidoSoul (Reply #7)

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
4. Wow, another anti-science response and in less than 6 seconds. Guess you didn't read the study?
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 04:58 PM
Aug 2015

Or even read the Washington Post article?

Where do you people come from?

Knee-jerk anti-science remarks are common on DU and it makes me think you've all signed up for GOOGLE alerts every time key words are used, like "pesticides".

Some people get paid to write insulting retorts about pesticide injury, or toxic injury in general.... like it doesn't exist?

Get real "hollysmom". And what about Holly? If she exists maybe you care about protecting her brain?

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
13. wow, lighten up who knows, maybe I lost it already.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

you never know who you are talking to here.
apparently sense of humors are on the decline

Holly is 15, never had much of a brain strictly on what interests her this very second, barks all day, we know we are on the down side of her life. Now if we talked abut my border collie, that would be another story. Much smarter.

Here is the thing, post in the heath thread and you get serious answers, in general discussion anything goes.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
21. Not all the time, but probably when I'm discussing a
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:59 PM
Aug 2015

very serious problem I tend to get a little.... well, serious.


And, I'm afraid that I'm showing signs of dementia, so being scared might make me
a bit starchy about the topic.

Sorry to be such a pill.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
26. nope, she wasalways crazy,
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:22 PM
Aug 2015

She was labeled unadoptable because her owners said she was vicious and adopted and returned after that with claims she bit people. This was not possible as I discovered she had a soft mouth, but she would like to lick peoples fingers. That is not biting, idiots. She can't eat anything hard, so I altered her diet and she thrived. She is loving and affectionate but completely untrainable beyond outside bathrooms, But I also had to put in a giant litter box in the bathroom (actually a kiddy pool)since she waits until the last minute and if I am not home, there were accidents
Dog is not senile, just never had too much up there, me on the other hand, quite possible. 1) because I had a medication accident (prescription too strong) and I died and was resuscitated a few times. So lost some brain cells there, and now I am just plain old (and like to kid around a lot) and can never find my keys even though I have a key hanger near the door, ha ha . Keep forgetting to hang up keys.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
34. I have an old car. No fob.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:00 PM
Aug 2015

I have been known to put the milk away in a cupboard. If someone else finds it I tell them I am going to make soda bread. Of course, then I am committed to making soda bread within the next day or so.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
31. If you are serious about that
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:51 PM
Aug 2015

then download the book I posted the link for. I also have a video on the subject by Dr foster, I will find a link for that for you too.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
39. we were losing my father that way as well but then!
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:19 PM
Aug 2015

Talking to my mother, something rang untrue, so I had my father enroll in a program where they evaluated him and it turned out the doctor was overdosing him with medication - 7 times what he should have been taking and it was giving him delusions and weird hallucinations. His doctor resented it, and I could not get Dad to change doctors, so I tried to keep an eye on what was prescribed to him after that. One day he gave a touching tribute to his children because he knew his mind was clear, but when his disease (Parkinson's) advanced so his life had little value - turning to stone, he took an overdose of his blood pressure pills to kill himself, we found he him before he died and he begged us not to call an ambulance, he wanted to die with dignity. He could barely see to read, and had to wear diapers and needed a wheel chair to get around, when he was put in bed, it took an hour for his body to straighten out to go to sleep. He would not let my mother to hire anyone to help, so the burden of taking care of him was on her. I still can't believe she could carry him when she was in her late 70's but she said you do what you have to do.

Still, at least him mind was clear in the end.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
44. That is a touching, heartbreaking story hollysmom. Many of us are going through
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:01 PM
Aug 2015

similar challenges. I've joined an organization called Final Exit so I'll be able to end my life if I get to
be so stupid and expensive for my family to take care of.

Why should I give my life's profits to the chemical/pharmaceutical industry which injured me to begin with! I'd rather leave the little that I have to my kin.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
18. Animals get dementia too, and other neurological disorders
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:55 PM
Aug 2015

We have animals that were chronically exposed to pesticides and they were definitely affected neurologically. One of our cats lost the use of her back legs for several months at the same time the rest of us humans were getting neurological problems from the pesticides being used bi-weekly in an adjoining building. They used extremely toxic products.

Low level chronic exposures are more damaging that a one time acute exposure... if you live through it that is.

And yes.... I guess the humor gets lost on me when were discussing the huge loss of brain power and chronic illness that was described in the study.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
5. It's most likely whats in the AIR. Your olfactory pathway goes directly to your brain and that's
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:01 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)

why you see anesthesia delivered through the nose. The effects are almost immediate.

There is no competent blood/brain barrier between the nasal passages and the brain.

If you eat something with a little pesticide in it, at least your liver gets to take a shot at eliminating it from your body. Not so with the brain, which is lipid rich, and petrochemicals store there freely.


 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
8. There was some scientific speculation a few years ago that beef eating was a factor.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:06 PM
Aug 2015

One theory was that a lot of mad cow disease type stuff lies dormant in brains for decades and then starts to do its damage, mimicking other types of dementia.

Cholesterol and saturated fat (in meat) seem to be a contributing factor to dementia, as is low veggie/fruit intake.

https://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/diet-and-alzheimers-disease

Nutrition Research

Studies have shown that risk for AD is greater in people who consume diets high in cholesterol, saturated fats, and total calories and low in fiber, vegetables, and fruits.3,4,5 Such diets seem to play a role in the formation of beta-amyloid plaques and in causing oxidative damage to neurons.6,7,8,9 This is also supported by data demonstrating a decreased risk of AD with use of lipid-lowering medications10,11 and by preliminary findings in one study, which showed an increased incidence in dementia in heavy meat eaters compared with vegetarians.12

At the Ninth Annual Conference on Alzheimer’s Disease and Related Disorders, Harvard researchers discussed the role that fruits and vegetables may play in AD. Jae Hee Kang, Sc.D., and colleagues evaluated approximately 13,000 participants in the Nurses Health Study. They calculated the women's intake of fruits and vegetables between 1984 and 1995 and correlated these values with performance on tests of cognitive function conducted between 1995 and 2003, when the women were in their 70s. Women with the highest consumption of green leafy vegetables and cruciferous vegetables—both high in folate and antioxidants such as carotenoids and vitamin C—declined less than women who ate little of these vegetables.13

Increased homocysteine levels appear to be an independent risk factor for AD, in addition to being a risk factor for CNS vascular disease (another common cause of dementia).14,15 Although inherited forms exist, acquired hyperhomocysteinemia is usually the result of low levels of vitamin B12, vitamin B6, and folate, which are necessary for its metabolism. Good sources of folate include legumes, orange juice, asparagus, walnuts, and green leafy vegetables, such as spinach. Sources of B6 include whole grains, soy foods, peanuts, walnuts, bananas, and avocados. B12 is usually found in animal products; however, healthier alternatives include fortified cereals and soymilks or a multivitamin supplement.

Limiting total energy intake may also be of benefit. For example, certain populations in China and Japan have low average daily caloric intakes (1,600 to 2,000 cal/day) and lower incidence of AD compared to people in the United States and Western Europe (typically greater than 2,000 cal/day).16 A 2002 study of elderly Americans followed for a mean of four years found that, compared to those consuming the fewest calories, those consuming the most had an increased risk for AD.17

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
12. Many good points there. Unfortunately other animals are implicated
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

in Crutzfeld Jacob's Disease, the human version of "Mad Cow" disease.

Even wild game has been found to be infected.

We are not doing enough to stop the destruction of our ability to think and reason. And then there's the huge problem of caring for people who can't think for themselves. The fact that this is happening more and more and younger and younger ages -- is an extremely frightening thought.

There are too many things crashing upon us right now which proves that we have pulled too many strands out of the web-of-life and it is coming apart, bit by bit.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. Dietary patterns have long been associated with decreasing cognitive decline
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

Dietary patterns have long been associated with decreasing cognitive decline and reducing your risk of dementia and researchers have now suggested that those who follow the MIND diet can lower their dementia risk by as much as 50%


http://dementiaresearchfoundation.org.au/blog/mind-diet-another-approach-dementia-risk-reduction


New diet to fight dementia: Best evidence yet that diet of fish & veg can beat the disease

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/559581/dementia-research-diet-vegetables-fish


Nutrition and Dementia: Foods That May Induce Memory Loss & Increase Alzheimer’s



Why Some Foods Induce Memory Loss
The brain needs its own brand of fuel. It requires healthy fats, fruits, vegetables, lean proteins, and adequate vitamins and minerals. Consuming too little of these foods and too many complex carbohydrates, processed foods and sugar stimulates the production of toxins in the body. Those toxins can lead to inflammation, the build-up of plaques in the brain and, as a result, impaired cognitive function.
These effects apply to people of all ages, not just seniors.






http://www.alzheimers.net/2014-01-02/foods-that-induce-memory-loss/

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
10. It is definitely part of the picture.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
Aug 2015

And think of all the drugs that kill people. Over 130,000 a year in hospitals alone by drugs prescribed by physicians.

But pesticides are ubiquitous. Perfumes are essentially unregulated and contain many highly toxic substances. "Plug-Ins" and sprays to make your space smell like "nature" are often highly toxic.

Lysol is a registered pesticide at the EPA.

Most neurotoxins have not been adequately tested.

Chem/pharm plays the same game as the tobacco industry did for decades. Keep injury controversial for fifty years until the bodies pile up.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
58. Thank you for this, my friend.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:48 AM
Aug 2015
"Perfumes are essentially unregulated and contain many highly toxic substances." This should be printed on those glitzy bottles of perfumes (much as the warnings on cigarettes packs are). http://www.huffingtonpost.com/samuel-s-epstein/toxic-chemicals_b_625648.html

Some of us canaries become nauseous, dizzy, and mental disoriented just breathing these fumes and I've no doubts about long-term effects from constant exposure. Of course, there'll always be some non-empathetic jerks who think folks with chemical sensitives are faking.

Thanks for the whole thread, AikidoSoul. Good info posted here by a number of people.


And, btw, I don't think you're irony impaired at all. What you said was a reasonable assumption given the direction many posters take. Besides, you're not a mind-reader.

Peace

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
14. The most relevant words are "could be". And these paragraphs...
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
Aug 2015
Other experts quoted by the newspaper were skeptical about the causes for the increase.

Tom Dening, professor of dementia research at the University of Nottingham, said that falling death rates for cancer and heart disease could account for the spike in deaths from neurological disease since people “had to die of something.”

“We can’t conclude that modern life is causing these conditions at a younger age,” Dr. Simon Ridley, head of research at Alzheimer’s Reserach UK told the paper. “We know that Alzheimer’s and other dementias can have a complex interplay of risk factors.”

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
23. There will always be skeptics, but there is no debate
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:09 PM
Aug 2015

that neurotoxins can damage the brain, and there can be no real factual debate about the dramatic increase of neurotoxins in our environment. That includes every conceivable place....our homes, workplaces, in the air, water, our food, in our clothes, sheets, pillow cases, etc. which are routinely treated with chemicals that remain even after thirty launderings. Pyrethroid pesticides are most commonly used.

"Dying of something" seems a quixotic remark to explain the increase in dementia, since neurotoxins were not nearly as ubiquitous sixty years ago as they are now. And they do damage the brain. That is a a simple fact and remarks from skeptics to change that.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
59. My dad just died from dementia, his mom did also. I have a strong family trait and serious concerns
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:59 AM
Aug 2015

about my own future. I wish they would figure out what causes it, how to prevent it. That said, I am a skeptic, having seen up close what pain and wish for hope can bring people to do.

"can" "could" and "may" are all qualifiers which are necessary often since the hard facts are not known and fast easy solutions too often are not based on hard data. Part of the upswing is indeed living longer, also being diagnosed sooner in many cases. But it is concering.

I wish for more knowledge and am glad to help fund those doing research into it. Plastics, manufactured petrochemical items are so prevalent in our lives.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
24. EXACTLY.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015

And it's good to remember the tactics used by the tobacco companies is the same as are used by the chem/pharm industry. Chem/pharm managed to keep dioxin controversial for over thirty years until finally there was consensus that it's carcinogenic.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
28. They did the same for asbestos.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

There's a killing to be made, not by giving out money to the mopes whose health they ripped off.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
46. Good point! The American Council on Science and Health is an industry whore, paid by industry.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:10 PM
Aug 2015

ASCH has received scathing criticism for its deceptive
tactics: “Forefront of Science or Just a Front?”. (See
Consumer Reports, May 1994; Megalli and Friedman,
“Masks of Deception”, p. 3; Joel Bleifuss, “Science in the
Private Interest: Hiring Flacks to Attack the Facts”,
PR Watch, Vol. 2, No. 1 (1995) , p. 11; Anon., “Public
Interest Pretenders”, Consumer Reports, Vol. 59, No. 5 (1994),
p. 319; Anon., “Misguided Health Priorities Could Affect Economy”,
International Insurance Monitor, Vol. 41, No. 6 (1987) ; Anon.,
“Dr blasts US health care priorities”, Cash Flow, Vol. 91, No. 47 (1987).

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
49. they don't just cultivate spokespeople, their goal is to create an ideology and a climate of doubt
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:29 PM
Aug 2015

against any dissent--anyone demurring on GMOs has to not only have their funding pulled but be likened to the creationists (and that metaphor has good pull with people sick of the fundies trying to off women and gays in the name of Jayzus)

it's the same movement that gave us the neocons and the think thanks in the later 70s:
reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis

arikara

(5,562 posts)
30. Aluminum
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:44 PM
Aug 2015
There is currently a global Alzheimer’s pandemic involving tens of millions of victims. In the USA alone, the number of those affected is expected to reach 14 million by 2050. This suffering and the financial costs associated with it are unnecessary. Alzheimer’s disease is caused by aluminum and is particularly common in those carrying the APO E4 allele(s), who are more susceptible to this toxic metal because they are less capable than the general population of removing brain beta-amyloid and tau proteins. As a consequence, such individuals are at higher risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease, as these abnormal proteins build up in the brain and form neuritic plaques and neurofibrillary tangles. Naturally, this process occurs more often and most rapidly in regions that promote the deposition of beta-amyloid and tau. Such “harmful” environments are those in which drinking water is acidic, high in monomeric aluminum, and lack magnesium, calcium, and silicic acid. Under these circumstances, aluminum enters the brain and impairs various enzymes, including choline acetyltransferase, calcium/calmodulin kinase II, alkaline phosphatase, and phospholipase.

...snip...


http://hdfoster.com/dr-fosters-work-alzheimers-disease

Geography vs. Genetics


For many years, scientists have believed that Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is passed through the family line and is genetic due to the possession of a particular gene called Apo E. Through our research, we have clearly demonstrated this cannot be the case.

If AD was purely genetic, we would expect four natural consequences to be true:

Global spatial distribution would be random and uniform;
There would not be an earlier and rapidly increasing onset of the disease;
Migration would not alter the incidence of this disease; and
Changes in lifestyle would have no impact on someone with the disease.

1. Global Distribution of Alzheimer’s disease.

Given that the Apo E gene is found in people all over the world, we would expect AD to have a random and uniform distribution pattern – i.e. to see the same incidences of the disease in countries in Europe as in South America. However, this is not the case; there are clear patterns of this disease across the globe.

In fact, in some areas of the world, there are really low incidences of AD, like in Maracaibo, Venezuela where there has only been one case of AD was found in a decade. Maracaibo has an AD mortality rate of 1 per 10,000,000 per year. Conversely, in Norway, AD is diagnosed in 6 - 109 per 100,000 women and 4 - 55 per 100,000 men every year, ranking Norway as having the highest incidence of this disease. Therefore, AD is thousands of times more common in parts of Norway than in Maracaibo, Venezuela.

2. Earlier and rapidly increasing onset of Alzheimer’s disease.

Human genes do not change quickly, they remain constant over long periods of time which means that if AD was genetic we would not expect to see fast increasing incidences of the disease in younger people.

However, the opposite is true, we are seeing the rates of AD increasing faster than the population is aging (almost to epidemic proportions), particularly in the USA, Canada, England, Norway and Australia. We often hear the term ‘early onset Alzheimer’s’ which must mean other factors are causing the disease, rather than genes.

http://www.hdfoster.com/geography-alzheimers-disease


The book. He talks about the causes and what you can do to prevent alzheimers. You can download it for a small donation, or free if you can't afford it, or order a hardcopy.

What really causes Alzheimer's disease by Dr Harold Foster

There is currently a global Alzheimer's disease pandemic, involving tens of millions of victims. This book shows what to do about it, including memory loss issues. This book suggests how to reverse memory loss in the early stages of Alzheimer's disease.


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AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
47. Excellent post with excellent resources. Thank you Arikara
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:15 PM
Aug 2015

It's people like you who will help change the scientific brain block that has been the norm here at DU for a long time.

Or maybe it's just too much aluminum!

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
66. Perhaps the chemtrail worriers had a point.
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:04 PM
Aug 2015

The point being that aluminum particles were spread by planes in an attempt to block enough sunlight to counter the effects of global warming to some extent. Now it doesn't sound quite as much like woo as it did 15-20 years ago.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
67. I never thought it was "woo"
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 10:29 PM
Aug 2015

from the first time I saw a checkerboard sky one morning when I drove to work, this was back in 1998. I've always watched the clouds and since then, the sky has changed around here. People who tested the emissions say its full of aluminum, barium, and some other bad stuff. Pristine places like Mt Shasta are massively contaminated by aluminum. Now else where would that come from other out of the sky?

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
33. GMOs, increased diabetes etc.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 06:53 PM
Aug 2015

Yes the food we eat, the lifestyle and the environment combined. Dementia can be vascular, Alzheimers and other types.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
36. When I was a kid living in New Jersey
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:10 PM
Aug 2015

in the 1950s trucks would routinely roll through suburban neighborhoods fouling the air with malathion spraying. They would do it at the drive-in movie, too, up and down the rows spraying cars. It was supposedly mosquito abatement. It was probably more accurately long term human abatement.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
42. Albuquerque was still spraying Malathion in the late 90's out of trucks going through neighborhoods
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

And unfortunately, it came through my screen door while I slept. It contaminated my house and yard and sensitized me big time. I had to move out of my house and get my house decontaminated. Ignorant people were running the pesticide program and they sprayed my neighborhood 4 times in one week with Malathion. I filed a toxic tort lawsuit and they stopped spraying Malathion in my neighborhood but continued spraying it on the people at the pueblo of Isleta.

My whole neighborhood became ill - all the little kids got asthma (including my grand daughter) and I got environmental illness big time. I could not stop salivating and got extreme reactive airway disease. If I am around chemicals now, I will start salivating big time.

Besides pesticides, I think prescription drugs are a big contribution to dementia. I could see it with my mother - if they upped her blood pressure meds, her mind would get worse. Painkillers would make her psychotic. No drugs and she was normal. People over 65 have a slower detoxification rate and should be taking less drugs and this is usually when they are given the most drugs.

I can tell you who in my book club is on cholesterol lowering drugs by how bad their memories are. The brain needs cholesterol to function.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
50. I belong to several toxic injury groups and to the Collaborative for Health and the Environment
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:36 PM
Aug 2015

which has nearly 4,000 members from all over the world, made up of scientists, researchers, doctors, alt med practitioners, scholars, investigative journalists, and those who study toxic injury, Toxic Encephalopathy which is so similar to the controversial condition called Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. I prefer the term above (TE) or Environmental Illness, although MCS really should be the description because it puts the blame where it should be as these chronic illnesses are most often triggered by exposures to neurotoxic synthetic chemicals. I personally know many people afflicted with this condition and they live lives of pure hell. Trying to get away from toxicants is almost impossible, and especially those that travel long distances in the air we breathe.

I wish you well and understand what kind of a life you must live to survive.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
65. toxic injury
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 12:53 PM
Aug 2015

Thanks Aikido Soul - I moved to the country - the high desert of NM (I have 40 acres of cedar, pine and cactus) and my boyfriend helped me build an environmentally safe house. It's framed with pine instead of pressed wood. We used only solvent free paint and products. Maybe one car goes by a day- no exhaust pollutants. I eat organically, grow some of my own food, raise chickens that eat only organic food and take no prescription meds. I take lots of vitamins and OMG! "homeopathics". Also, I am lucky that my few neighbors are like minded people when it comes to toxic chemicals and pesticides.

When I lived in Albuquerque, I belonged to a MCS group and I seem to be doing better than most. I think my clean living has paid off big time for me. 95% of the group believed their MCS to be pesticide related.

You were right when you mentioned how Malathion was stored determined the toxicity of it. When I spoke with the city of Albuquerque worker who sprayed the Malathion, he told me he had run out of Pyrethroids and found this old Malathion in the corner of the shed.

I have many MSC friends -some are very sick and totally homebound. I was totally homebound for a yr so I know how hard it can be - relying on friends to get your groceries and run your errands. I could not even get a hug from my boyfriend, as any scent on him with trigger my airways to close. I would say I have recovered about 90% which is unusual in the MCS community.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
48. Malathion's active ingredient is warfare agent called organophosphate
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:27 PM
Aug 2015

and it is used illegally all over the country because the label says it may not be stored or used when the temperature goes above 77 degrees, which is a joke because it's used widely by mosquito control personnel in the south and stored in sheds that greatly exceed that temperature. It becomes far more toxic when it reaches higher temperatures.

BTW, organophosphates were first developed in Nazi Germany by the company I.G. Farben, and was used for chemical warfare. It is in such well known weapons of mass destruction such as SARIN, TABUN and SOMAN.

Nice, huh? I agree that it is not only killing us, but making us chronically ill to breathe this stuff. But the companies that make it also make pharmaceuticals, and are deeply invested in medical devices, hold patents on countless therapies, chemo being just one. In other words, it's in the chem/pharm's best interest to make us chronically ill so they can get our money both when we use their toxic products and then with their drugs to treat our symptoms and disease.

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
52. Avoid pesticides, synthetic fragrances, toxic areas to live in, synthetic carpeting
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 10:55 PM
Aug 2015

building materials with adhesives and formadehyde, filter your water with an excellent filter; don't use fabric softeners or "fabric sheets" in your dryer.

Use vinegar to clean with. Use Steve Tvetden's concoctions to get rid of insects like red ants. His enzyme products really work.

New clothing should be put in the washing machine with fragrance and dye free laundry detergent like Seven Generations "Free and Clear", and then pour a bottle or two of isopropyl alcohol poured on the clothing. Don't use much water for the first run, and then rinse it by adding nothing and putting it through the wash cycle again to get all the soap and residual chemicals out.

We do this without fail and never use clothing or sheets unless it has been treated this way to shed the pyrethroid pesticides and other synthetic poisons first. The way to break the molecular bond with the atomic structure of the fabric is by using the polar solvent isopropyl alcohol... information given to us by the brave toxcologist Dr. James Moss, of Gulf War Illness fame.

(1) "Pyrethroid insecticides and formulations as factors in residues remaining in apparel fabrics after laundering" Laughlin J. et al Bull Environ Contam Toxicol 1991 Sept 355-61
(2) Schreck, C.E., Kane, F., and Carlson, D.A., 1982, Permethrin impregnations of military fabrics: an evaluation of application rates and industrial methods by bioassay and gas chromatographic analysis: Soap, Cosmetics, and Chemical Specialists, v. 58, no. 8, p. 36-39. English. Sorption to Resins. CA97(22):183855c.
(3) Schreck, C.E., Posey, K., and Smith, D., 1978, Durability of permethrin as a potential clothing treatment to protect against blood-feeding arthropods: Journal of Economic Entomology, v. 71, no. 3, p. 397-400. English. Sorption to Resins. CA89(11):85711t.
(4) Bry, R.E., Lang, J.H., Boatright, R.E., and Simonaitis, R.A., 1977, Durability of resmethrin on woolen cloth: Journal of the Georgia Entomological Society, v. 12, no. 2, p. 173-179. English. Sorption to Resins. CA88(22):154238n.
(5) Schreck, C.E., Posey, K., and Smith, D., 1978, Durability of permethrin as a potential clothing treatment to protect against blood-feeding arthropods: Journal of Economic Entomology, v. 71, no. 3, p. 397-400. English. Sorption to Resins. CA89(11):85711t

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
70. Sorry to be so late answering. The answer is yes, some delicate fabrics
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:00 PM
Aug 2015

with colors that easily run, must be washed alone in cool water. But once the pyrethroids and formaldehyde are gone, you can wash these fabrics with a eco friendly product like Seven Generations, Free and Clear which had no dyes or snthetic fragraces.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
73. Thank you for all the info . Yes I already use Eco no dye fragrance
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 02:18 PM
Aug 2015

I guess this is due to clothes traveling new half way around the world . My understanding is if they were locally made there is no need for preservation or worry of infestation.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
41. It's diet.
Sat Aug 8, 2015, 07:35 PM
Aug 2015

Studies have already shown that nations that are more prone to use turmeric in their cuisine suffer little to no mental disorders in old age.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
69. Look at the food supply. Trying watching Genetic Roulette, read Altered Genes, Twisted
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 11:36 PM
Aug 2015

Truth, and watch Monsanto. That should be eye opening.

Spare me the BS, that GMO have been proven safe because that is a lie.

Widespread use of pesticides - what do you think they are drenching your GMO food with...

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