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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUber Is Serving New York’s Outer Boroughs More Than Taxis Are
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/uber-is-serving-new-yorks-outer-boroughs-more-than-taxis-are/Now, thanks in part to a Freedom of Information Law request, we have data. A lot of data: nearly 93 million trips taken by Uber and conventional taxis over a six-month period from April to September last year, including date, time and coordinates of the pickups. And while we cant yet say whether Uber has exacerbated Manhattan congestion, the data weve analyzed shows that Uber has a point when it claims that it is doing a better job than taxis in serving the boroughs of New York City outside of Manhattan. Of the 4.4 million Uber rides for which the data shows a pickup location, 22 percent started outside of Manhattan, compared with just 14 percent of the 88.4 million yellow and green taxi rides.
The city, though, has a point when it says that most of Ubers trips are in the citys busiest areas. Ubers Manhattan pickups were heavily concentrated in the part of the island south of 59th Street, just as taxi pickups are. In fact, 63 percent of all Uber rides in New York started in that area, which includes the midtown and downtown business districts, compared with 62 percent of all taxi pickups. (Taxis picked up a greater proportion of their riders in Manhattan north of 59th Street: 25 percent, compared with Ubers 15 percent.)
The data shows just how much of the market for rides is concentrated in Manhattan south of 59th Street, home to less than 10 percent of the citys inhabitants but the destination of most interborough commutes. It is also, though, the part of the city best-served by the subway and with the worst traffic congestion.
PSPS
(13,614 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Taxi drivers also assault passengers, go to the wrong place, and let their insurance lapse and get into accidents.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And financed the purchase of most of the rest. Their stock is down more than 50% since 2013. Piss off rich people, and they find a way to astroturf.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Support Uber and you support ALEC.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)philosslayer
(3,076 posts)It should be legislated out of existence.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)It's interesting to me that for all the talk of how little Uber drivers earn, nobody's ever been able to actually say they earn less than hack drivers.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Taxi are ridiculously expensive. Long live Uber. Sorry a smart company is doing better then the has been. I say everyone needs to get with the times. I understand that it was a shame blockbuster didn't get with the times and are gone. Perhaps taxis can cut their prices in half and use technology like a cell phone app like uber does. This should be celebrated not condemned.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Kind of like Walmart being "cheap" because they pay their employees crap wages and import low-quality garbage from China.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)This is a company where a person with little to their name but a car can provide themselves a wonderful life. I think that in itself is worth having this company.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Someone with "Little to their name but a car" should not be providing taxi services unless they are licensed, insured, and regulated as a taxi service.
Uber doesn't want to play by the same rules that everyone else has to. (They are also anti-labor.)
ericson00
(2,707 posts)because with Wal-Mart, quite frankly, the labor isn't terribly skilled yet can have full-time work.
Uber is simply mass underemployment masquerading as a "job creator." They're also more dangerous to society, given how their drivers pass no tests, undergo no background checks, and you can't be full time with benefits; even that's possible with Wal Mart.
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Regulate it out of business. Uber is skirting the law and unfairly competes.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)People have this mental image of a cabbie owning his own cab and medallion, but that's not how it works just about anywhere anymore. Why do you care that it's a Silicon Valley company taking a cut rather than a local slumlord taxicab company taking a cut?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)There is a lot to NOT like about Uber, but until the medallion system is scrapped, I think it provides a viable alternqtive to the corrupt and crappy taxi service.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Cabs have to start their day at a certain time and place at the cab yard. People picking up in their personal car are in a different situation.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'd imagine very few of those cars are kept overnight in Manhattan, unlike the taxis.
brush
(53,871 posts)Are they still operating, as they used to serve the outer boroughs more than medallion cabs?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)More rides, more money. Most of these have expanded.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)At least real taxi drivers in NY have a union and are treated like actual employees.
If you have an respect for organized labor and real workers rights you won't use Uber or Lyft.
christx30
(6,241 posts)One time, it was midnight, and 32 degrees. I had no ride home because my gloves were soaked and I wanted a ride, so I called a cab. Two hours later, the taxi still hadn't shown up. Called about 10 times checking on them. Finally called them and told them to screw themselves and walked 9 miles home.
If taxis could compete with services like Uber, they would be doing much better. But the service from the drivers just isn't there. The customers are demanding better service.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)This analysis is incomplete without an analysis of the car service pickups. Yellow cabs and street pickups have never been common in places like northeast Queens, but everybody uses car service, and there are cheap car service companies throughout the area. The same is true for most outer boroughs "cab" transport. It's a flawed analysis. Yellow cabs are for Manhattan and the airports. Neighborhood "cabs" you call the local car service place. Been that way for 40 years at least.