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Just when I think I couldn't possibly manage even MORE respect for John Kerry (Original Post) Siwsan Aug 2015 OP
The Best SoS in decades... mylye2222 Aug 2015 #1
I can't help but believe he would have been a great President, too Siwsan Aug 2015 #2
We really now have two presidents if you think about it.... Pauldg47 Aug 2015 #8
a formidable team,no? MBS Aug 2015 #16
Your absolutely right! Pauldg47 Aug 2015 #19
agreed. he is one i think we really missed out not getting him as president. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #21
" " " n/t MBS Aug 2015 #22
+1 joshcryer Aug 2015 #28
I appreciate that he is presenting it in bilingual fashion also. still_one Aug 2015 #3
So many good people that were denied their rightful place in Baitball Blogger Aug 2015 #4
Promoting peace through... YvonneCa Aug 2015 #7
Agreed! MBS Aug 2015 #23
I loves him! shenmue Aug 2015 #5
Wholeheartedly agree. Some may point to "mistakes" like pampango Aug 2015 #6
Yech. He lost me last year... MattSh Aug 2015 #9
Your rant is nonsense. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #10
And your reply is worse... MattSh Aug 2015 #11
Why did he lost your respect? On Ukraine? mylye2222 Aug 2015 #12
Both Clinton and Kerry had an opportunity... MattSh Aug 2015 #17
several of those people are career diplomats MBS Aug 2015 #24
I often place responsibility with the adult who initiates children's games... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #13
I'm guessing you have what you deem to be a rational reason for such a statement Siwsan Aug 2015 #18
Do a site search for that poster's name geek tragedy Aug 2015 #34
Now I understand ! LOL. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #35
Pretty good CV to date. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #14
Would have made a nice president in 2004. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2015 #15
I drove from CA to OH to volunteer for him for the last 2 months pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #20
Good for you! MBS Aug 2015 #25
Thanks pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #27
I'm so glad the staff hosted you. MBS Aug 2015 #30
Thank you for this thread. MBS Aug 2015 #26
If you want his legacy to shine, CALL YOUR UNDEDIDED REPS on the Iran deal! n/t eridani Aug 2015 #29
Yes!! MBS Aug 2015 #31
+2 pinboy3niner Aug 2015 #32
Finally a SoS we can be proud of tularetom Aug 2015 #33
You nailed it. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #36
I wish you had been here in '03 and '04 when Du'ers smeared Kerry with FUD and lies emulatorloo Aug 2015 #37
Well unfortunely at the time I didnt knew English so well.. mylye2222 Aug 2015 #38

MBS

(9,688 posts)
16. a formidable team,no?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:01 PM
Aug 2015

Kerry has been an outstanding Secretary of State. (And, yes, he would have been an excellent president, too, but, watching him in action, I've come round to the thought that SoS may have been the job he was truly born for. )
So nice to have a president and a secretary of state (oh, let's throw in Sec. Moniz, too) for whom I have the highest respect.
So proud to have these people representing my country.

Baitball Blogger

(46,737 posts)
4. So many good people that were denied their rightful place in
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:10 AM
Aug 2015

the oval office. I am glad that he has this moment in history. More meaningful than anything Bush did.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
7. Promoting peace through...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:24 PM
Aug 2015

...Diplomacy. 🇺🇸 That was a foreign concept for GWB.

Very proud of Secretary John Kerry!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
6. Wholeheartedly agree. Some may point to "mistakes" like
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:18 PM
Aug 2015

the recent upgrade of Malaysia's human rights ranking or others but, on balance, he has done a fantastic job as Secretary of State promoting peace and diplomatic solutions to global issues.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
9. Yech. He lost me last year...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:31 PM
Aug 2015

and I'll never be able to respect him again.

I still had my Kerry/Edwards magnetic bumper sticker from 2004, but I trashed it last year and I'm damn glad I did.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
12. Why did he lost your respect? On Ukraine?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

The real person acting bad was Victoria Nuland.... not surprised since she is a neocon diguised in a Dem. Not Kerry.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
17. Both Clinton and Kerry had an opportunity...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:07 PM
Aug 2015

to clean out that neo-con nest of vipers in the State Department, left over from the Bush era. Neither choose to do so.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
24. several of those people are career diplomats
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:26 AM
Aug 2015

They can't just be "cleared out" easily, without cause. I think that Kerry has been doing a good job of working with the people he's inherited.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. I often place responsibility with the adult who initiates children's games...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

I often place responsibility with the adult who initiates children's games.

However, I do realize those same children will petulantly rationalize their actions as something other than resentful bitterness.

Siwsan

(26,269 posts)
18. I'm guessing you have what you deem to be a rational reason for such a statement
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

and aren't just being a contrarian.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
14. Pretty good CV to date.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:49 PM
Aug 2015

He efficiently conducted Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, helped negotiate a power sharing deal in Afghanistan after the disputed 2014 Presidential election, helped negotiate a nuclear deal with Iran, and was instrumental in eliminating Syria's chemical weapons (and avert a possible U.S.-led military strike).

Now this.

Pretty good CV to date.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
27. Thanks
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:51 AM
Aug 2015

Funny thing is that I never met Kerry. While volunteering at our Franklin County field office in Columbus I was detailed once to staff a local Kerry appearance. But the Secret Service kept us upstairs with the press, so I only saw the back of his head through a tiny window in the door as he passed by.

His staff and interns gave me a tour of his Senate office after the election. But I felt like an intruder because he wasn't there. While in D.C. I stayed with one of his top subcommittee aides. I was just happy to be around the good people who worked for and supported him.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
30. I'm so glad the staff hosted you.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:09 AM
Aug 2015

You deserved it!
I worked hard, too (not as hard as you, though), but my most substantive contributions were early in the campaign, in the primaries, before the Iowa caucus. Unexpectedly (a friend gave me his ticket at the last minute because he was too sick to go), I landed a ticket for Kerry's Hardball college-tour appearance, in October 2003. Until that moment, I was just your average disgruntled Democrat appalled by W., with the vague notion that the time had come for me to really Do Something to help my party beyond voting and giving $. I knew very little about Kerry until that moment- but listening and watching him that evening, I suddenly thought -- I can still remember the feeling of shock --"wow, he's the Real Thing". I was totally in, from that moment on.

It was fun in those early days: small groups of people working the phones, paying no mind to the nay-saying pundits, people just helping someone they believed in.
(At the Democratic convention the next year, James Carville described Kerry's pre-Iowa political prospects in those early days): Kerry was "not only toast, but buttered on both sides&quot .
But Kerry kept at it, anyway.

He's still got that persistence, and it is really paying off in his courageous diplomacy.

Thinking about my pre-Iowa experiences, and all the current Stuff , on DU and elsewhere, about the 2016 presidential candidates , it's a good reminder that , for 2016, it's still early days. Lots of stuff can happen between now and the Dem convention and the Nov 2016 election, and lots WILL happen. I keep using the metaphor of roller-coaster ride, but I think it will be wilder than that. A roller-coaster does after all have some predictability: for all the up and down, it DOES nevertheless ride on a track. Judging from events so far, this election seems like it will be wilder than that -- so far it feels like there's no track at all.




MBS

(9,688 posts)
26. Thank you for this thread.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 05:43 AM
Aug 2015

So much complaining and yelling on GD these days - this thread is such a refreshing contrast.
Like you, I have enormous respect for Sec. Kerry. "Magnificent" is indeed the word to describe him and his work as Sec. of State. Just a joy to watch. His diplomacy has been daring, creative, and thoughtful- AND effective!
Please may this Iran deal go through.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
31. Yes!!
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:27 AM
Aug 2015

And also don't forget to thank any of your reps who have already announced their support. They're getting so much pressure from AIPAC, Republicans, Big Money, etc-. . Those have the courage to stand up against that pressure deserve an extra round of applause (and thanks).

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
33. Finally a SoS we can be proud of
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:43 AM
Aug 2015

Powell and Rice of course were horrible and Hillary Clinton turned the State Department into the fund raising arm of the Clinton Foundation.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
36. You nailed it.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:25 AM
Aug 2015

The real issue is not wherever she used a private mail box. Is that she collided CGI and SoS job.
Secretary Kerry , upon arrival, straight used a state.gov adress.

emulatorloo

(44,131 posts)
37. I wish you had been here in '03 and '04 when Du'ers smeared Kerry with FUD and lies
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:32 PM
Aug 2015

Perhaps you would not be so quick to embrace every Rightwing Fake 'Scandal' to take down HRC.

HRC is too conservative for me, but I don't care for Rightwing smears aimed at our candidates. The Clinton Cash book was debunked a while ago, email ghazi is falling apart now.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
38. Well unfortunely at the time I didnt knew English so well..
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 02:50 PM
Aug 2015

That said, I am not endorsing every RW Lies. As I stated above the emails were not illegal. BUT it is clear Clinton foundation benefited from HRC' s tenure. She shiuld have separated activities (philantropic and diplomatic) upon her arrival. Period. She was imprudent and I cant believe she didnt thought at any moment it could backlash at her.
I saw DU Archive on 2004-2004 time. The more I saw was DUers calling Kerry a coward after Election Day.

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