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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:12 PM Aug 2015

Mike Huckabee Checkmates Jeb Bush’s 4 Percent Growth Promise by Promising 6 Percent Growth

By Jonathan Chait


Jeb Bush has made the ludicrous promise that, if elected, his still to-be-determined economic program will launch the United States into 4 percent economic growth. Reuters reported out the genesis of this promise a few months ago. “There were no fancy economic models or forecasts when former Florida Governor Jeb Bush first tossed out the idea that 4 percent annual growth should be the overarching goal for the U.S. economy,” it revealed. Just a bunch of guys on the phone pullin’ numbers out of thin air:

That ambitious goal was first raised as Bush and other advisers to the George W. Bush Institute discussed a distinctive economic program the organization could promote, recalled James Glassman, then the institute's executive director.

"Even if we don’t make 4 percent it would be nice to grow at 3 or 3.5,” said Glassman, now a visiting fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. In that conference call, “we were looking for a niche and Jeb in that very laconic way said, 'four percent growth.' It was obvious to everybody that this was a very good idea."


(George W. Bush’s policies didn’t produce anything close to 4 percent annual growth, but the Bush Institute has made 4 percent growth its major theme, in keeping with the general Republican practice of acting like the Bush administration never happened.)

But there’s a weakness in basing your economic message on pulling a crazy number out of thin air: Another candidate can always pull an even crazier number out of thin air. And now Mike Huckabee has done it. The obvious choice would be to one-up Bush by promising 5 percent growth. But Huckabee, thinking two steps in advance, probably realized that if he went with 5 percent, another candidate could still leapfrog him. So he went with 6 percent growth!

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JHB

(37,161 posts)
3. Dr. Mike's Miracle Tonic of No...
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

...distilled from the essence of the world's finest, rarest reserves of gua!

It cures headaches, backaches, constipation, trepidation, leprosy, stethoscopy, bureaucracy, aphasia and trade deficits with Asia!

It produces vitality, venality, constitutionality, and unreality! Six percent growth, not a measly four, show that fella out the door!

Dr. Mike knows his gua no! Get yours today!

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
7. Every Presidential race has folks promising more than they can deliver, but this season is
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:12 PM
Aug 2015

shaping up to be particularly crazy in that regard.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
9. Starting to resemble a junior high student council election......
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:54 PM
Aug 2015

When one candidate promises a Coke machine in the cafeteria and another one ups him by promising a popsicle machine in the cafeteria. And of course the Student Council has no say over what kind of machine is in the cafeteria.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
11. Did they ever get around to naming that sewage plant The George W. Bush Institute?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:32 PM
Aug 2015

Too bad if they didn't.

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
12. They can say whatever they want. They know they won't be elected.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:37 PM
Aug 2015



And if by some strange twist of fate they are elected ... they will take the GOP way out when the economy goes down the toilet. They will point their fingers and blame any Dems who happen to be nearby.

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
13. LOL. "You heard of this thing, the 8-Minute Abs?"
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:41 PM
Aug 2015
Ted: Yeah, sure, 8-Minute Abs. Yeah, the exercise video.

Hitchhiker: Yeah, this is going to blow that right out of the water. Listen to this: 7... Minute... Abs.

Ted: Right. Yes. OK, all right. I see where you're going.

Hitchhiker: Think about it. You walk into a video store, you see 8-Minute Abs sittin' there, there's 7-Minute Abs right beside it. Which one are you gonna pick, man?

Ted: I would go for the 7.

Hitchhiker: Bingo, man, bingo. 7-Minute Abs. And we guarantee just as good a workout as the 8-minute folk.

Ted: You guarantee it? That's - how do you do that?

Hitchhiker: If you're not happy with the first 7 minutes, we're gonna send you the extra minute free. You see? That's it. That's our motto. That's where we're comin' from. That's from "A" to "B".

Ted: That's right. That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with 6-Minute Abs. Then you're in trouble, huh?

[Hitchhiker convulses]

Hitchhiker: No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

Ted: That - good point.

Hitchhiker: 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

Ted: Why?

Hitchhiker: 'Cause you're fuckin' fired!

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
17. That much growth would put upward pressure on wages
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:51 PM
Aug 2015

And we know how the Republicans think about THAT.

So, it ain't going to happen.

hay rick

(7,625 posts)
18. These candidates don't respect the electorate.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 11:15 PM
Aug 2015

They are throwing out obvious BS with the expectation that most people won't recognize it or won't care. Another observation: they believe the media won't call them on their BS or more importantly, if the media calls them on it it won't matter. This might be the lesson candidates are taking from the Trump farce. Trump spews paranoia and nonsense and his poll numbers go up.

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