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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:20 PM Aug 2015

"This is the most important election of our lives"

Politicians say this basically every presidential election. At least every election since I've been voting.

And they're saying it again now.

Is there any objective (or subjective, whatever) way to justify this? Since 2000 at least, they've all been pretty important. If we win 2000, then there's no Iraq War, maybe even no 9-11, possibly no financial collapse, definitely no tax cuts for rich people, etc. I'd say 2004 was less important, because Bush had already done the most damage in his first term.

2008 might have been the most important recently. But part of what made it important was that we lost in 2000, so there was this huge mess to clean up. Would we be better off now with Dems in the WH from 2000-2008 and the GOP from 2008-2016? Tough to say.

How do people think 2016 stacks up, in terms of importance, to the other elections starting in say 2000 (or before that)? How would you rank the recent elections in terms of "importance" (whatever that may mean)?

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Having the SC giving the presidency to George W Bush was a disaster. He over spent and got the US
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:29 PM
Aug 2015

into a Middle East conflict we are still trying to overcome. We sure don't need another Bush who thinks W made a good move by removing Saddam. Saddam was a bad person but from the removal Islamic State was born, one of the worst foreign affairs mistake of my lifetime and perhaps more in the future lifetimes.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. This is one important reason:
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:30 PM
Aug 2015

Four out of nine justices of the supreme court are 76 years old or older. The retirement age in the US is 67.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/Hx/SupremeCourt.html

Whoever occupies the Whitehouse in the next Presidential term is very likely to appoint almost half the Justices of the Supreme Court.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
3. it's more important for Democrats
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:30 PM
Aug 2015

If a Democrat is president, the congress can hold the line and nothing gets done. If a Republican is president, the White House and Congress can run the table on legislation, judicial appointments, etc. Repubs have been running the table in MI for a few years, and the results are not pretty.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
4. The very earth groans under the capitalist overlords
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:31 PM
Aug 2015

because they care SO much about profits they are willing to destroy this earth for just a few more billions. Because they care SO much about profits that they are willing to amass most wealth in the hands of only 1% of the people and allow the rest of us to dwell in discomfort and poverty.

Pretty damned important, if you ask me.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
7. SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:36 PM
Aug 2015

No more Citizens United.
No more District of Columbia v. Heller.
No more Bush v. Gore.
No more Burwell v. Hobby Lobby.

No more corporate personhood.

The insanity in the name of profit must stop.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
8. It's important to keep the Rs from
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 12:40 PM
Aug 2015

undoing all the good that's been done over the last 50 years. More importantly is the necessity of winning back control of the state governments. The Rs have rigged all the elections in states that they have taken over by all voter suppression methods.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
9. We need to get it right, for a change. "No Baggage Bernie" is the most electable.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

Yeah, I coined that just now!

Seriously, the only baggage that can be found is being manufactured, even as we speak.

goldent

(1,582 posts)
11. I get tired of hearing that also
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:23 PM
Aug 2015

I think they are all exactly the same.

I guess you could argue that means each election is most important, if you allow for ties

WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
12. 2000 or 1980- Most important elections of my life.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:30 PM
Aug 2015

Probably 1980 really, since 2000 doesn't happen without Ron.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
14. The only thing really more important about this one than the last few is:
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:41 PM
Aug 2015

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]1) The Supreme Court Might FINALLY be turned blue

2)The environment is getting more and more out of whack and another Repug would be a disaster.

Other than that it is the usual false hyping we always get.[/font]

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
15. In the Grand Scheme few events depend upon One Unique individual
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 01:51 PM
Aug 2015

Had Adolf Hitler never been born would we be heralding the Versailles Treaty for delivering a Century of Peace? Or would the Nazis have risen to power under another charismatic leader?

With the US Government it would be difficult for any individual to have too much impact. Even POTUS is more a collection of individuals rather than a single mighty dictator. Then elections every few years forces a stabilizing effect where the people push back against any sustained shift too far one way or the other. Even shrubs incompetence was unable to send the Pub's the way of the Whigs.

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