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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTalking about the 400 years of racial oppression in the US is not "looking for ways to be angry".
What happened 400 years ago IS happening to PoC now. Like sexism, racism has a long and painful history. It has evolved, grown, twisted, changed, and become what we see it today. Sadly, many of the same problems we saw then (whites murdering blacks) are still happening in almost the exact same manner it is today. Other things, like the brutal system of alienation we call mass incarceration, are newly evolved forms of racial control.
When someone says to you, 400 years of oppression, they do feel the weight of 400 years on their shoulders. How could they not? The people who called us white folk in Seattle "white supremacists" (and I am one of them) do not see us in "the most convenient terms, the simplest definitions". Believe me--I've actually met and discussed things with Janae.
When you look out on a Seattle crowd, at a sea of white faces, who don't understand the reality you face in the slightest, who are on a broad scale ignorant of your problems (and in being so helping to cause those problems); when you see the result of hundreds of years of oppression and racial discrimination, and you know those hundreds of years have created the reality you must navigate now; when you know that those very same people have voted for and supported the regimes of the racist Seattle Police Department, the racist city council policies, the racist housing development, the plethora of subtle and often overlooked structural racism inherent to your city and ignored by your neighbors; how can you not feel the weight of that oppression come crashing down on you?
In many ways, if not consciously, we are white supremacists. Not in our actions; we can be some fantastic human beings participating and fighting in the struggle against racism. But in our ignorance of the issues that are literally the very meaning of life or death to black America...we are creating a world for white people alone. The colorblind racism of mass incarceration and the new racial caste system that has evolved from it is a perfect example, and one of many to be found.
Respect must go both ways. And we need to understand that what is said and what we hear are often two very different things.
HFRN
(1,469 posts)people who think that's going to sell, are deluding themselves
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)lock in the racial status quo.
F4lconF16
(3,747 posts)It must be understood by each and every one of us in our own time, and the first step is to listen. White society must be willing to accept that yes, in fact, we are part of a culture that has crushed the black population time and time again--even those of us who are fighting hardest against that.
Otherwise, instead of fixing the problem, the best we'll get is another civil rights bill--temporary relief from certain aspects of systemic racism--and 50 years later...we'll be in this same spot again.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)My first post on Seattle:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1171132
Intellectually, seemed like their tactics were bad, but the pain and anguish in their voices was palpable.
I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I could feel it, and know there was something a lot bigger going on than "Let's Get Bernie!"
One of the replies?
The morale? You can see yourself as a part of the world, or the world as it relates to what's important to you.
One worldview is blind, seeing mouthy spoiled brats, picking on "our guy". The other sees Janae, and tries to understand why she's speaking and where those feelings come from you can hear in her voice.
Thank you. Listening is the first step, always, to understanding another perspective.
brer cat
(24,578 posts)Great OP, F4lconF16. K&R