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cilla4progress

(24,734 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:01 AM Aug 2015

Once again, my home is on fire.

Last summer the largest fire ever on record in Washington state occurred about 70 miles north of me, in the lovely Methow Valley. Right now, 20 miles away, the popular tourist town of Lake Chelan is burning. Some burn areas will overlap. It is panic here right now.

My husband of 35 years and I are finally seriously discussing leaving this home of ours of 25 years. We built our home in fireproof manner after losing a mobile home in a wildfire in 1994. Move to somewhere less hot and dry.

It's sad discussion, but necessary, I think.

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Once again, my home is on fire. (Original Post) cilla4progress Aug 2015 OP
I'm sorry. Please stay safe onecaliberal Aug 2015 #1
I'm so sorry. Cleita Aug 2015 #2
Be safe. PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #3
That is horrible. Marie Marie Aug 2015 #4
I am so sorry; I live in a wildfire-ravaged area myself Liberty Belle Aug 2015 #5
That is all terrific advice. nt Hekate Aug 2015 #14
Thank you dembotoz Aug 2015 #19
It is really bad this summer, hope it settles down soon. Over here on the west side, uppityperson Aug 2015 #6
Damn, just read this new blog posting. Hugs to you and how scary. uppityperson Aug 2015 #7
Less hot and dry? Warpy Aug 2015 #8
What a cycle. I feel for residence in these areas yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #11
Natural forest fires can be good for the environment. brer cat Aug 2015 #20
The west needs to burn Warpy Aug 2015 #22
No Pinion pine here. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #24
NM lost a major orchard a couple of years ago Warpy Aug 2015 #27
I'm so sorry. It's beautiful out there. I know what a loss you're facing. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #9
I hope you stay safe. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #10
Just saw on the news the fire jumped the river. Suich Aug 2015 #12
Best wishes from SoCal. Stay safe. Hekate Aug 2015 #13
Oh I wish I could help! tblue Aug 2015 #15
So, so horrible. :( C Moon Aug 2015 #16
I understand angrychair Aug 2015 #17
Thanks to all. cilla4progress Aug 2015 #18
Better to be prepared. brer cat Aug 2015 #21
sorry to hear that. stay safe Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #23
"Move to somewhere less hot and dry" < Do you have another planet in mind? We moved from Oklahoma jtuck004 Aug 2015 #25
I am hoping for the best for all in danger gwheezie Aug 2015 #26
We've had forest fires here in Grays Harbor rain forests. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #28
" Move to somewhere less hot and dry"..... from Washington State? bvar22 Aug 2015 #29
 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. Be safe.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:11 AM
Aug 2015

Are they evacuating? Chelan area has burned for years in a row it seems. The smoke is thick where I am at, a couple hours east of you.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
4. That is horrible.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:11 AM
Aug 2015

I am so sorry to hear that you have to go through this AGAIN. Wishing you the best and please get you and yours some where safe.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
5. I am so sorry; I live in a wildfire-ravaged area myself
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:20 AM
Aug 2015

and know so many who lost homes in the fires in San Diego in 2003 and 2007.

I hope you've packed your most important valuables in case you have to evacuate, and be sure to take photographs of everything left behind if you have time now. That is a big help in case you have to put in an insurance claim later on.

Store electronic records in a cloud file off site - including copies of family photos. At least put them on a thumb drive or CD you can take with you if you evacuate and store a copy in a safe place like a safe deposit box or with a relative in another city. Be sure to take the name of your homeowner insurance agent and phone with you; many people forget this.

If you have pets be sure you have a carrier, food and water for each and leashes for dogs. Pack water and nonperishable food for family members along with medications. Have a meeting place for family who gets separated and a contact person.

Some larger items too heavy to take along can be saved by putting them into a pool or pond, of you or a neighbor have one. I know people who saved things like antique dishes this way.

If there is a water source on the property, put a sign on the garage door alerting firefighters to where it is.

When you leave close all doors, windows, draperies, and attic vents so sparks can't easily get in.

Clear brush around your house, whatever it takes. There is firefighting foam that can be bought and sprayed on; some can last for several days now. It saved some houses here.

Don't wait too late to evacuate! You can rebuild a home but you can't replace loss of live. Here people got trapped by heat so intense it melted tires off cars, so always allow lots of time to get out and even if you don't have a formal evacuation notice, if the fire looks like it's getting too close for comfort, get out.

If you are sheltering in place for now, go to Target or another simliar store and guy an air filter. You can run it for an hour or two in each room to remove the smoky haze from the fires. Our son had asthma and this was a lifesaver when the 2003 Cedar fire blazed through here.

Good luck and I hope you don't have to leave. Please stay safe!


uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
6. It is really bad this summer, hope it settles down soon. Over here on the west side,
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:20 AM
Aug 2015

we've a couple fires in the Olympics, including one over in the rain forest. It is scary out. Best wishes to you over there, hoping people and firefighters are able to stay safe.

ETA a blog I've been reading
http://wildfiretoday.com/

http://wildfiretoday.com/2015/08/14/update-on-the-fire-situation-in-washington-and-oregon/

Update on the fire situation in Washington and Oregon
Posted on August 14, 2015 by Bill Gabbert
The Regional Office in U.S. Forest Service Region 6, comprised of Washington and Oregon, distributed an update on the wildfire situation to USFS retirees. Below are some excerpts from the message, dated August 13.

****

“…As predicted, initial attack (IA) was heavy across the region yesterday and into today. Many new and extended attack fires grew steadily, and in some cases, quite dramatically. Wednesday saw 32 new fires in Oregon for 9,738 acres while Washington had 58 new fires for 1,426 acres. The most concerning of these is the Stickpin on the Colville National Forest . There is continued concern for the National Complex, the Cornet/Windy Ridge, and Cougar Creek. Four Type I teams are assigned in the region at the Wolverine Fire on the Okanogan-Wenatchee, the National Complex on the Rogue River-Siskiyou, Umpqua and Crater Lake National Park, the Stouts Creek also on the Umpqua, and finally at Cornet/Windy Ridge out on the Wallowa-Whitman. IA resources are stretched thin and many Type III teams are managing challenging fire situations while Type I and II teams get in place. For more information on specific incidents, please visit the INCIweb: inciweb.nwcg.gov

The regional situation is all juxtaposition with the fact that nationally, there are 73 (and counting) uncontained large fires. More than 19,000 U.S. Forest Service and other federal, state, and local wildland firefighters; more than 100 helicopters; and 25 large airtankers are working to suppress wildland fires. Over the last week however, of the more than 1,200 new fires reported on National Forest System and other federal, state, and private land nationwide, about 50 – just 4% – became large fires. This is a testament to those tremendous IA efforts. An interesting point here in the Pacific Northwest though is that many of the large fires are burning into fire scars, some as recent as 2013. We are finding that old fire scars are not slowing the progress of fire spread this year. I think this represents another example of how fire behavior is not as it once was and the unpredictably we now face…”

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. Damn, just read this new blog posting. Hugs to you and how scary.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:23 AM
Aug 2015
http://wildfiretoday.com/2015/08/14/five-fires-in-chelan-washington-area-evacuations-ordered/
Five new fires are burning near Chelan, Washington. Two of them are within two miles of the city and have caused immediate evacuations, including the Chelan Walmart.

The Chelan County Emergency Management Department on Facebook and Twitter, @ChelanCountyEM, has up to date details about the evacuations.

Several roads and highways were closed Friday afternoon, including US 97A, US 97, and SR 971, and the power was out in Chelan.



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Warpy

(111,261 posts)
8. Less hot and dry?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:48 AM
Aug 2015

At one time, I would have pointed to Florida as too soggy, swampy and steamy to burn but they've also had severe fires in recent years.

Climate change is going to mean more fires and in places that generally don't burn over, like Alaska.

At their best, the burns will open the area up for new growth of plants more suited to a warmer area.

I hope the winds shift and this one burns itself out quickly. I hope your house survives.

I hope...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. What a cycle. I feel for residence in these areas
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:00 AM
Aug 2015

Of course fires are horrible for our environment. Just an awful situation. I just hope we don't have a single casualty.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
20. Natural forest fires can be good for the environment.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:49 AM
Aug 2015

It is the raging, out-of-control fires (often cause by human carelessness) that are so destructive.

I join you in hoping there will be no casualties.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
22. The west needs to burn
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:22 PM
Aug 2015

Pinion seeds need fire to burst open the cones so they can germinate. New growth needs to be able to replace old growth. For decades, people didn't understand this and suppressed normal, low level fires. That's why were having the devastating crown fires now. Smokey the Bear misread the country.

That doesn't help much when it's your part that's on fire. Even if your house survives, the world outside goes from green to black and grey for a few years until that new growth starts to pop up in earnest.

Around my part, the worst has been in Los Alamos. So much fuel in the form of dead wood had built up that a controlled burn got completely out of control with a change in the weather. The Forest Service didn't learn much--it's still illegal to pick up dead wood in national forests for firewood.

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
24. No Pinion pine here.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

It's sage brush and native grasses.

I did see some photos where the fire had got into the orchards. Fruit trees don't rejuvenate from fire btw.

We had 40 acres go up in smoke in June on our place.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
15. Oh I wish I could help!
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:36 AM
Aug 2015

Stay safe. Please keep us posted whenever it's convenient. Maybe your home will be okay. I'm keeping a good thought for you and yours.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
17. I understand
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:12 AM
Aug 2015

I'm in Waterville right now trying to catch some sleep since I can't get to my Incident command post tonight in oroville at the 9 mile fire. If you are in Chelan than pay attention to news and weather and the WA DNR fire twitter and have situtational awareness. Stay safe!

inciWeb is a good site too:http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/49/

It is normally the most current info on a given fire that has an incident management team assigned to it as it is updated by the team's public information officers as new information comes in.
I think WAIMT 3 is on the Chelan fires but I've been driving all day so I am not sure.

cilla4progress

(24,734 posts)
18. Thanks to all.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:41 AM
Aug 2015

Thanks libertybelle - eval preps start in earnest tomorrow.

We've maintained the clearing of vegetation around our place for the last couple years. Trimmed limbs, etc. A few more things for husband to do tomorrow while I load out memorabilia, etc.

This fire is not likely to come our way, but better safe than sorry. In '94 got nothing out.

Anyway, practice for the next time.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
25. "Move to somewhere less hot and dry" < Do you have another planet in mind? We moved from Oklahoma
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

to Eastern WA years ago (missed anchorage by that much). Now, on a well that I am going to measure, I think the water level is falling.

When we got here...and I have been fortunate enough to have been halfway around the world 3 times, and I hitchhiked across most of the U.S. so I got to look up close and personal...I thought this was one of the nicest places I had ever seen.

I have seen fires along the way, but now I am watching it dry up, just in that short time. This land used to provide many of the strawberries and apples used around here, much of that now homes, lawns.

We may not have as long as we think. As well, the solutions for survival are not obvious, based on old information like they are.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
26. I am hoping for the best for all in danger
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 03:27 PM
Aug 2015

I've never had the experience of wildfires, I live in hurricane and flood land but we always have warnings. Fires seem so unpredictable.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
29. " Move to somewhere less hot and dry"..... from Washington State?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 04:07 PM
Aug 2015

It seems strange.
Most people have an image of Washington State as a state with survival levels of perpetual rain and chill ,
wet All the Time, with moss growing on the roofs.
Having traveled Washington, I know that the Eastern Part of the state is very dry. I presume that is where you are currently living.


MY wife & I moved to the old mountains of West Arkansas.
While it DOES get hot and dry here, and we do have Burn Bans and Wild Fires,
they don't approach the scale of those out west because our forests are predominately Oak, Hickory, and other hard woods. These trees are not as explosive as the Spruce and Pine out west,
so the fires are easier to contain & control.

Good Luck...not just with today's threats, but with your future.
My Wife & I are both Fire Fighters, and my Wife is the only medical First responder for 60 square miles,
so our hearts are with you.

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