It really pisses me off when Union guys..

[busterbrown]

vote republican because of morality, guns, and law and order issues..( I know plenty of them).Perhaps this tidbit of The Donald stating that Detroit Autoworkers make too much money..might influence you to get back to where you belong...
A Proud Union Democrat!!

http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/08/donald-trump-to-detroit-autoworkers-you-make-too-much-money.html

[Delmette]

1. I know a union rep...

Who keeps saying she is a Republican. I am slowing, issue by issue, convincing her that she is a Democrat.
It's a long careful process, but it is happening.

[Drahthaardogs]

16. She is not much of a union rep if she professes to be a Republican.

WTF planet does she live on? Republicans hate labor.

[busterbrown]

18. The question is, How did she become a union rep?

I’ll tell you.. because Union leaders don’t educate their rank and file..
Its everybody for themselves...It’s a full out surrender..

[Delmette]

23. She is a union member because of her job.

I don't know who or what convinced her to be the rep for her local but she is good at defending employees and standing up against management.

This is called cognitive dissonance.

[Drahthaardogs]

24. My grandfathers fought at Ludlow

That woman has no idea what unionizing is about. It is 101 years since Ludlow which was a major point of the union movement. My grandfathers had to go into hiding as Rockefeller's thugs were hunting them. Maybe you should show her some history of what being in a union means.

[onehandle]

2. I used to know a lawyer who had a Bush bumper sticker.

He told me he voted Republican for 'the tax break.'

He is gay.

[TheBlackAdder]

3. It's just like how a lot of military, police, firefighters, etc. forget they are socialists too. nt

[saturnsring]

4. smh im with you im cwa we have people in our union who are the same way. shortsighted and dumb just

Smh

[RoccoR5955]

5. Not to mention

they are the first ones to say that unions don't work, and will not get involved with them, even though they know that if they get involved with unions they can influence them.

[bvar22]

6. The problem with Union Reps....

...is that they get used to the good life and private jets while being romanced by Politicians.
Trumka long ago forgot where he came from.

[Basic LA]

7. Republican means Management.

We had a shop steward who was a Republican, and once I took him aside from the crowd & whispered --Don't say that, man! Don't you know Republican means Management?" His eyes widened & he scurried off, presumably to change his affiliation.

[Go Vols]

9. +1

people are stupid sometimes.

[Populist_Prole]

8. Yeah the same here: There's a few like that where I work

Of those, most gloss over economic issues and/or say that corporatist democrats are the same and vote mainly on social issues. These are either/and fundamentalist christians or hyper-nationalistic gun nuts.

The others ( just a couple or three ) are just Ayn Randian selfish pricks. They really think all other working class types ( other than themselves ) are overpaid and that their own income will go further if everyone else worked for less. They see no irony whatever in being union members themselves while showing no solidarity for other working class members: They simply see it as making the best situation for themselves. They show solidarity only when it's in their immediate interest.

The former group is just low-info and stupid. The latter group is full of malice. I've had arguments with the latter to where I wanted to literally beat the living shit out of them.

[Person 2713]

10. The others - I've known more than 3 and yeah just talking with them can piss me off big time

I call them the idiot asshole combo but your are more on target
selfish Randian s

[busterbrown]

12. Great Insight...Thanks..

“Only When its in their immediate interest”. Jesus, don’t they realize when it does come time to recognize that it is in their own self interest, it’s gonna be too fucking late..

IDIOTS!

[Oilwellian]

11. If only our Democratic leadership...

were supportive of unions. When they push trade deals like the TPP, it doesn't exactly entice union members into our camp.

[busterbrown]

13. We Did Not Learn A Freaking Thing From NFTA..

The fact that we let Corporations which existed in one of the greatest economic environments in the world.. simply get up and move to an impoverished country in order to maximize optimum profits, was the beginning of the end.

[Oilwellian]

20. We all learned plenty from NAFTA

It just didn't matter to our dear leaders. Still doesn't matter.

[busterbrown]

22. But it should... and its up to us to find and elect leaders...

who understand right from wrong!! Bernie is a good start..

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. Yep. My brother, a 25 year construction Union member, didn't know a lot...

But he "knew" Clinton fucked us over with NAFTA.

[Oilwellian]

21. I've heard that from several union members

And what the Democratic party is doing to teachers now...they just keep digging that hole.

[MicaelS]

15. The only time I hear many Democrats in power talking Unions..

Is come election time, when they want $$$. The rest time they're in bed with the Corps. Is it any wonder many Union guys don't care about Democrats?

[busterbrown]

17. But with Democrats theres much more of chance..

that things could be turned around.. Bernie Sanders... Hillary though very imperfect, already has acquired some union support.. But Republicans want Unions completely dismantled.. The worst democrat is 10 times better than the best republican when talking about Unions and fair wages.. So Union Guys wake the fuck up..

[Starry Messenger]

19. So many do, it baffles me too.

They believe that trickle-down bs.