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Why isn't the media asking Trump about his alleged mob ties? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 OP
Could It Be Disinclination For Wearing Cement Shoes? eom left on green only Aug 2015 #1
There is a lot there to look at... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #2
He's their darling, at least for now Warpy Aug 2015 #3
K&R. I have long wondered about Mafia ties with a number of Republicans. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #4
I am not going to sling poo for the heck of it DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #6
Yes. This needs more investigation but thanks for bringing it up. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #8
Three points DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #9
Perhaps the casino business has rid itself of the traditional Italian Mafia, but I am very JDPriestly Aug 2015 #10
That I agree with... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #11
Didn't the Mafia move to Wall Street? moondust Aug 2015 #13
I believe they were behind some 'pump and dump' schemes DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #16
Yes. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #19
interesting annabanana Aug 2015 #5
One of the things the Mob does is ensure there is no labor unrest at your work sites. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #7
Because they would then have to ask... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #12
This was true until the early to mid '90's but not so anymore in NYC. The mafia families hold on stevenleser Aug 2015 #14
A lot of people think that the mob LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #15
Bernie isn't in bed with organized crime. That's one of the reasons we like him so much. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #20
Drip drip drip malaise Aug 2015 #17
Malaise, did you see his presser today... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #18
I would have loved to see that. 'Stay outta the Bushes!' n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #23
I watched part of it malaise Aug 2015 #26
The short answer gratuitous Aug 2015 #21
I'm not overly shocked considering the industries he's involved in, but still... herding cats Aug 2015 #22
More DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #27
it will probably just make the idiot supporters support him even more JI7 Aug 2015 #24
Just wait till the next Fox News debate. briv1016 Aug 2015 #25
because the u.s. media is focused on finding shit on Hillary...no one else spanone Aug 2015 #28
I am pretty sure she isn't "mobbed up." DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #29
if hillary had any sliver of mob connections, there would be several republican senate/house investigations spanone Aug 2015 #30

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
3. He's their darling, at least for now
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:14 PM
Aug 2015

but the combined efforts of Rove's bunch and the Koch boys will get rid of him soon enough.

Then the mob shit might hit a few fans, but not before.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. K&R. I have long wondered about Mafia ties with a number of Republicans.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:19 PM
Aug 2015

I don't want to mention names, but it seems to me this may be quite common.

Great story that needs some intense investigation by independent media.

Thanks.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. I am not going to sling poo for the heck of it
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:21 PM
Aug 2015

I am not going to sling poo for the heck of it but there is evidence in the public record that Trump has done business with Mafia controlled companies. That doesn't necessarily mean Trump did something wrong because the Mafia has their hands in ostensibly legal businesses but it is interesting.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Yes. This needs more investigation but thanks for bringing it up.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:28 PM
Aug 2015

The casino business was traditionally the territory of gangsters. Wouldn't surprise me if if the links are real.

I don't understand why anyone would go into a casino.

The owners of the casino could not stay in business if you had a chance of really winning.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Three points
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:32 PM
Aug 2015

1) The evidence suggests the casino business has rid themselves of the Mafia
2) If you do research you will discover when Trump received his New Jersey casino license corners were curiously cut.
3) Yeah, gambling is a fool's errand. The house always has the advantage.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Perhaps the casino business has rid itself of the traditional Italian Mafia, but I am very
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:10 PM
Aug 2015

suspicious about whether it is involved with newer organized crime groups.

The problem is that gambling casinos so easily lend themselves to activities like money laundering, illicit drug sales, human trafficking for prostitution and othe purposes, etc.

By its nature, it is attractive to criminals.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. That I agree with...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:25 PM
Aug 2015

Casinos are magnets for prostitution and illicit drugs, the latter because it takes drugs to go on three day binges where you hardly sleep.

moondust

(19,982 posts)
13. Didn't the Mafia move to Wall Street?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:47 PM
Aug 2015

Bigger ROI, more anonymity/better cover, not as messy, harder to prosecute, etc.

Seriously, I heard something like that back in the 80s or 90s

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. One of the things the Mob does is ensure there is no labor unrest at your work sites.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015

This is important in big construction projects.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
12. Because they would then have to ask...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:32 PM
Aug 2015

every candidate about their mob ties.

Am I cynical? In New York if you pour a yard of cement or ship a truckload of anything you have mob ties.

I grew up with it. I worked in a sweat shop on 8th Avenue. I loaded fruits and vegetables in the Bronx Terminal Market.

If you didn't do business with the mob you didn't do business.

Grow up people. Politicians of every stripe are in bed with organized crime!

Trump is a slug... but...

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
14. This was true until the early to mid '90's but not so anymore in NYC. The mafia families hold on
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:50 PM
Aug 2015

the unions and the garment, construction and waste disposal industries was broken, as were the families themselves for the most part.

I agree, though, this is likely why Trump was involved with the mafia, like just about everyone doing construction, every garment manufacturer in NY and various other businesses. It's still an ugly explanation to have to give and IMHO worse than using a personal email server.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
15. A lot of people think that the mob
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:53 PM
Aug 2015

is just a few insular Italian families. They are way beyond the NY and Chicago bosses of Prohibition and the early casinos in Vegas. They're all over the place now, and the line between mobsters and government is very blurry.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
17. Drip drip drip
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:58 PM
Aug 2015

They're coming for him- have no fear. Today they were discussing the 'foreign' wife.
Still I'm lovin' how he's exposing politicians and lobbyists and how he's tearing JebusEnoughBushes a new one re Iraq

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. Malaise, did you see his presser today...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

He called Bush lll a "puppet" and said he won his war with FOX and you can ask Roger. That was delish...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. The short answer
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:31 AM
Aug 2015

The media aren't asking T Rump much about anything. He can pop off about anything, and none of the "journalists" seem the least bit interested in scratching the surface of his sound bites.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
22. I'm not overly shocked considering the industries he's involved in, but still...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:52 AM
Aug 2015

This seems to be something the GOP would be exploiting. That is unless they're worried about what other things he might say if they do?

Having read the attached article now I see it's something they're going to leave up to surrogates to expose. Not good enough for me. I mean anyone can say anything. That's not proof enough it's real. I want it brought to the actual forefront and discussed in the open. Not a behind the scenes whisper campaign. This needs to be investigated!

What's congress up to lately? This could be a real issue here!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. More
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:13 AM
Aug 2015

Trump was building his eponymous empire of hotels, casinos, and high rises in the early 1980s in New York City and Atlantic City. In both places, the construction industry was firmly under the thumb of the mafia. And in both places there are literally concrete connections between La Cosa Nostra and Trump’s lavish projects. Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston, who has covered Trump for decades, has written a very useful list of questions for Trump. Many focus on his ties to the mob. In addition in his 1992 book, “Trump, The Deals and the Downfall,” author Wayne Barrett lays out a slew of suspicious dealings and associations.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/28/how-close-was-donald-trump-to-the-mob/

JI7

(89,250 posts)
24. it will probably just make the idiot supporters support him even more
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:52 AM
Aug 2015

as they will think it shows he isn't part of the establishment and more underground type or whatever shit reasoning they will use to continue to support him.

spanone

(135,836 posts)
30. if hillary had any sliver of mob connections, there would be several republican senate/house investigations
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:37 AM
Aug 2015

and the media would be reporting it with the same intensity as 'benghazi' and 'email-gate'

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