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still_one

(92,192 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 07:59 PM Aug 2015

If the Democrats are not able garnish enough votes to prevent a veto override, on the Iran deal,

I believe that the Democratic party will implode, and regardless who wins the Presidential election, the Democrats will lose the majority in the Senate, and thus both houses will be controlled by the republicans, and we can kiss the SC and other judicial appointments goodbye

This is an Iraq redux all over again, and the most astounding thing is the ignorance or political games that is being played in the Senate by many of the usual suspects



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If the Democrats are not able garnish enough votes to prevent a veto override, on the Iran deal, (Original Post) still_one Aug 2015 OP
it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ NRaleighLiberal Aug 2015 #1
+1 daleanime Aug 2015 #7
Note that Pelosi says she has the votes to sustain a veto in the House. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #2
Good, I hope so. I won't produce the links, but Huffington Post sure is implying it is a flip of a still_one Aug 2015 #4
huffpo is becoming increasingly conservative restorefreedom Aug 2015 #5
That's only because they want readers on the edge of their chairs to click their links. PSPS Aug 2015 #14
If he doesn't have the votes in the Senate where does the bigdarryl Aug 2015 #8
Has to be overriden in both the House and the Senate. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #10
I can't see the basis for your prediction. Would you please explain? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #3
All the prognosticators are saying because of the number of incumbents up for re-election the still_one Aug 2015 #6
Not if they go against Obama like most did in 2014 bigdarryl Aug 2015 #11
I agree. Hopefully this is just unnecessary concern on my part still_one Aug 2015 #13
Hate to mention this former9thward Aug 2015 #9
Forget it, he's rolling JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #15
You beat me to it. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #20
i haven't seen any serious prediction this will happen 6chars Aug 2015 #12
The democrats already are the minority in the Senate nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #16
... And by the way, Fuck Shumer! Hoppy Aug 2015 #17
Will never happen. PSPS Aug 2015 #18
Yeah...I heard this same thing back in 2008...."The GOP is dying out" davidn3600 Aug 2015 #21
What kind of garnish would you recommend? Parsley is always nice. hedda_foil Aug 2015 #19

still_one

(92,192 posts)
4. Good, I hope so. I won't produce the links, but Huffington Post sure is implying it is a flip of a
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

coin

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. I can't see the basis for your prediction. Would you please explain?
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015

We already lost the Senate in 2014. I just am not following you line of thought here.

still_one

(92,192 posts)
6. All the prognosticators are saying because of the number of incumbents up for re-election the
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:12 PM
Aug 2015

Democrats have a good chance to retake back the Senate.

I probably messed up my thought process in the OP, but that is what I meant.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
11. Not if they go against Obama like most did in 2014
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:31 PM
Aug 2015

The bottom line is if the Senate democrats don't give the President the veto power on this deal and the republicans start there war talk the African American community will not vote for anyone who voted.against this deal.AL Sharpton in fact next week will be telling all his listeners on radio to call there Senators and Congressmen to support this deal.Melendez is already history in NJ. One because of his indictment and the fact he comes from my state which is pretty blue.I think the Feds most likely got the goods on him he's been under investigation for quite some time.

former9thward

(32,009 posts)
9. Hate to mention this
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:28 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:03 AM - Edit history (1)

but Democrats lost their majority in the Senate in 2014. Both Houses are controlled by Republicans.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
12. i haven't seen any serious prediction this will happen
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:43 PM
Aug 2015

the house has votes to sustain the veto, and almost surely the senate too.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
18. Will never happen.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 08:55 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:39 PM - Edit history (1)

It will be impossible to override a veto. Furthermore, your prediction about the future of the Senate is wrong. The GOP has, at most, three more years of a Senate majority, and perhaps only one year. The GOP won't be winning any elections outside the House with its gerrymandered districts. Their base is becoming too small.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
21. Yeah...I heard this same thing back in 2008...."The GOP is dying out"
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:16 AM
Aug 2015

Yet right now they hold more seats in Congress than anytime since after WWII.

Maybe we need to stop believing that fairy tale because it's making our party lazy. You really want to just wait 20 years and hope that the demographics favor us?

I'd love to know what numbers your crystal ball has for the lottery....

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