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Sunday's Doonesbury-Teaching Texas History (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2015 OP
For those that wish to see the Texas declatration it can be found... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #1
It wasn't just Texas that seceded because of slavery. Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2015 #5
Thank you. All the declarations are similar. (nt) Paladin Aug 2015 #9
Yet all those morons of today deny it mdbl Aug 2015 #25
Excellent! trusty elf Aug 2015 #2
Kicktoons, and thanks Hekate Aug 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #4
"the revealed will of the almighty creator" trusty elf Aug 2015 #6
Great quote brer cat Aug 2015 #8
"kyrie eleison"? that's Popish Greek-speak! MisterP Aug 2015 #16
I know.... trusty elf Aug 2015 #17
Rewriting history, brer cat Aug 2015 #7
Coming soon to a state near you awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #21
Doonesbury does another great strip-It is tough living in Texas Gothmog Aug 2015 #10
I sympathize. trusty elf Aug 2015 #11
Very tough. tazkcmo Aug 2015 #27
I feel like asking some of my fundy relatives trusty elf Aug 2015 #12
Don't be surprised if some tell you... Jerry442 Aug 2015 #19
My relatives are not that bad. They would never admit to being racists. trusty elf Aug 2015 #20
I was when I heard this. tazkcmo Aug 2015 #28
A teacher can find a way around that kind of forced curriculum... 1monster Aug 2015 #13
K&R..... daleanime Aug 2015 #14
K/R Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #15
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias.” -- Stephen Colbert nt Jerry442 Aug 2015 #18
k&r Electric Monk Aug 2015 #22
K&R! This toon should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #23
Using the word SLAVERY Marthe48 Aug 2015 #24
Harmful Lunacy colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #26
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #29

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
5. It wasn't just Texas that seceded because of slavery.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:32 AM
Aug 2015

The South Carolina Secession Declaration states specifically that

A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety.

On the 4th day of March next, this party will take possession of the Government. It has announced that the South shall be excluded from the common territory, that the judicial tribunals shall be made sectional, and that a war must be waged against slavery until it shall cease throughout the United States.

The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.

Sectional interest and animosity will deepen the irritation, and all hope of remedy is rendered vain, by the fact that public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanction of more erroneous religious belief.


The Georgia Declaration of Secession similarly makes it clear that the reason for secession is slavery.

The Mississippi Declaration says

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.


Other Confederate states' declarations make similar statements.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
25. Yet all those morons of today deny it
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:22 PM
Aug 2015

Ask any bubba or his momma and they'll tell ya the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. LOL

Response to n2doc (Original post)

trusty elf

(7,394 posts)
6. "the revealed will of the almighty creator"
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 06:59 AM
Aug 2015


Rrrright. What was that quote about gawd hating all of the same people that I do?

“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”

― Anne Lamott

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brer cat

(24,565 posts)
7. Rewriting history,
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 08:17 AM
Aug 2015

one former slave state at a time. The thing that amazes me is that I was taught the states rights nonsense but also that slavery was the issue driving secession when I was in school in GA during the 1950s. Why are they rewriting it now?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. Coming soon to a state near you
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015

Because of its size, Texas sets the standards for the books most states buy.

trusty elf

(7,394 posts)
11. I sympathize.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
Aug 2015

I lived there for years, and most of my family are still in Houston. OF course there are some great people in Texas, but sheesh, so many idiots too.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
27. Very tough.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:32 PM
Aug 2015

If not for my son, I'd be gone.

I'd love to see Texas secede and after we've yanked every federal dollar from the state budget and all those military bases, I'll watch Mexico take it back. In HD! Good times.

trusty elf

(7,394 posts)
12. I feel like asking some of my fundy relatives
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
Aug 2015

whether those secessionists back then were "real" Christians. If the will of the almighty creator was revealed to them, does that mean gawd is a racist? If they weren't real Xians, or they misunderstood Gawd's will, how can I be sure that what my relatives say is God's will isn't also a hallucination.



Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
19. Don't be surprised if some tell you...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:50 PM
Aug 2015

...that God's will was revealed back than and correctly understood and hasn't changed.

trusty elf

(7,394 posts)
20. My relatives are not that bad. They would never admit to being racists.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 02:10 PM
Aug 2015

I would love to make them go through contortions trying to justify or explain away the secessionist racist crap.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
13. A teacher can find a way around that kind of forced curriculum...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:26 PM
Aug 2015

When teaching about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, etc., I always make copies of the documents and give them to the students, and discuss them with the students.

Under the circumstances of the required curriculum of Texas, I would tell the students the answers required by the state on the standardized tests, but would also make sure they knew the real answers and could find the documentation to back it up.

It does not hurt to let children know early and often that what one is told is not necessarily the truth.

Marthe48

(16,959 posts)
24. Using the word SLAVERY
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:14 PM
Aug 2015

How can anyone from this free country, at any time in our history, stand up for that appalling state of affairs? Use it to determine the goals of their lives, their states, their country?

And they put that word, as if it were perfectly okay, into their justification to war, to set their young men against the USA, and they thought it was worth it?

Are people living now, who still rail against freedom in America, going to start a civil war to preserve the minimum wage at the level it is now?

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
26. Harmful Lunacy
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

The right is trying to brainwash students as they deny climate change. They are causing so much harm that likely will have long lasting implications.

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