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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. Almost nobody here is going to watch a 15 minute speech by a British MP.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 11:13 AM
Aug 2015

Probably good if there is a brief summary that you can post.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. Truth. Thank you; malaise. In a just world, England would empty its royal treasury
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Aug 2015

paying massive reparations to the hundreds of millions of descendants of the peoples of the earth who it genocided, murdered, raped, enslaved, robbed, imprisoned, tortured, beat, persecuted, oppressed, dispossessed, exploited, impoverished, etc, on to near infinity.

The unmitigated, elitist, arrogant, self righteous hypocritical arrogance, and unspeakable wickedness, of the English Imperial Empire is the filthy little secret that many have worked so hard at justifying and keeping locked in the locked closet where the victors who write history keep the rest of their lies and unspeakably wicked secrets.

The the long heinous history of the Imperial English Empire really needs to be examined thoroughly and honestly under a microscope, and judged by historical fact as one of the most murderous and destructive evils that has ever afflicted humankind and planet earth.

England should be held fully accountable.

We are due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
5. So should Italy, Greece, Mongolia, Turkey, etc. etc.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:08 PM
Aug 2015

Then after we are all done paying each other for our ancestor's conquests we will all be rich!

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. Yep, my ancestors were brutally enslaved by the Holy Roman Empire.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:15 PM
Aug 2015

I calculate that with compound interest the government of Italy owes me about 3 billion dollars. However, in the interests of putting this behind us and moving on I will settle for a year's supply of spaghetti.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. Just bunch of mischievous cub scouts, compared to Imperial England,
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

if viewed in terms of numbers of people harmed, property stolen, and land destroyed.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. What makes it so much creepier is that so many are proud of it.
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:40 PM
Aug 2015

They view and value imperial conquest, subjugation, oppression, and exploitation as indisputable proof of their innate superiority.

malaise

(268,999 posts)
17. Imagine cutting of the hands of the Indian weavers
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 07:04 PM
Aug 2015

to stop them from producing cloth so that the English could sell theirs.

I guess given the number of people they slaughtered, chopping off hands are just mere petty details.

What I love most is that they call us the barbarians. They perfected the inversion of reality.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
10. Who is giving who a pass?
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 12:41 PM
Aug 2015

I'm calling out every country that participated in destroying other civilizations. It goes way further back than England. We can't call out one country and give others a pass, right? So let the reparations start with Italy who invaded England before the English could build a boat capable of transporting armies. And the Vikings who really fucked England hard.

Start your lawsuits with those countries, and then get on to England, and by the time you are done winning reparations from the royal family, I should get paid first, as I am Irish/Scottish, who were both getting fucked up by England long before other countries were.

Now quit wasting time posting on the internet and file that lawsuit, and keep me updated with your progress. I want to get rich!!

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. Spain in the Americas and Caribbean?
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

Remember who imported the vast majority of slaves to the Americas. They committed genocide on a vast scale.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
14. Between 1761 and 1808, British traders hauled 1,428,000 African captives across the Atlantic...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:29 PM
Aug 2015
England

Between 1761 and 1808, British traders hauled 1,428,000 African captives across the Atlantic and pocketed $96.5 million – about $13 billion in value today – from selling them as slaves.

From 1500 to 1860, by very modest estimations, around 12 million Africans were traded into slavery in the Americas. In British vessels alone, 3.25 million Africans were shipped. These voyages were often very profitable. For instance, in the 17th century, the Royal Africa Company could buy an enslaved African with trade goods worth $5 and sell that person in the Americas for $32, making an average net profit of 38 percent per voyage.

Slave-owning planters and merchants who dealt in slaves and slave produce were among the richest people in 18th-century Britain, but many other British citizens benefited from the human trafficking industry.

Profits from slavery were used to endow All Souls College, Oxford, with a splendid library; to build a score of banks, including the Bank of London and Barclays; and to finance the experiments of James Watt, inventor of the first efficient steam engine.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/01/nations-that-benefited-the-most-from-enslaving-african-people/2/

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. Your link lists six countries
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Apr 9, 2018, 04:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Why are you singling out just one? Your link for example, pointsout the Portugal was the leading slaving country in terms of number of slaves shipped to the Americas.

My only point is that Engand was not uniquely evil in regards to slavery.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
13. British have invaded nine out of ten countries - so look out Luxembourg
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 01:23 PM
Aug 2015

Britain has invaded all but 22 countries in the world in its long and colourful history, new research has found.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html

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