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In a stunning action that was long overdue, a group of native Navajo Americans chased Senator John McCain out of the Navajo Nation capital of Window Rock making it perfectly clear he was unwelcome in the first place.
McCain was visiting the Nation in commemoration of Navajo Code Talkers day, and perhaps for a moment thought he would get by listening to polite pleas from Navajo Nation President Russell Begaye and Vice-President Jonathan Nez to back a Congressional appropriation to fund the construction of a Navajo Code Talkers Museum. According to a report from Native News Online.Net, however, the Nations leaders chose the moment to focus on the EPA tragedy unfolding via the Gold King Mine spill into the Animas and San Juan Rivers. ...
more at link
http://reverbpress.com/news/mccain-chased-off-rez-pissed-off-navajo-activists-video/
valerief
(53,235 posts)KarenS
(4,075 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Being chased away by constituents is kind of embarrassing.
Gloria
(17,663 posts)You know, all that natural beauty, just for John...
Who give a shit about the rest of the state...
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)I wonder if John even understood the significance?
riversedge
(70,218 posts)PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)and this bit with the EPA fouling the river they depend on really sucks.
It is very revealing of our political system that Sen. McCain was there to commemorate their WWII service as 'code talkers,' when he SHOULD have been there to promise them that he would do everything humanly possible to get massive federal money down there for a cleanup.
See....for McCain, WAR = important, FOULED RIVER = hope it doesn't come up
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Kick!!
A real leader would have been there to talk about cleaning up the river. Glad they ran him off.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Warpy
(111,261 posts)and water being trucked in for drinking and for their stock, not a bunch of mealy mouthed horseshit about people who were a thousand times more brave than he was.
The good news is that Animas river water has cleared in Durango and that clearing will proceed down to the first dam. They should be able to water their stock, at least, within a few weeks.
They need something to help them survive those weeks. Words about WWII from some old fart who wasn't there won't help.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)There is bound to be sediment that precipitated out of the water still in the river bed.
This will be a long lasting disaster, and they have cause to be pissed off. That water is the life blood of that land.
Warpy
(111,261 posts)into the Animas before the EPA goofed up, that's why they were there in the first place.
Once the surface water clears, it will be OK for stock, at the very least.
The problem comes down river where the Colorado is dammed up to form Lake Powel and Lake Mead. That's where the cleanup will be most problematic and will likely take years.
Nac Mac Feegle
(971 posts)Who exactly is responsible for the incident?
Were the people that let that crap loose government employees or contractors?
I've seen a LOT of stuff contracted out that used to be done by actual government employees. I wonder if this is really a result of "lowest bidder" incompetence.
I heard something partially on Thom Hartmann the other day about contractors being the actual ones doing the work. That opens up a lot of questions about the whole situation.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)A law from the 1800s lets mining companies abandon their mines without doing anything to control environmental damage. Leaving it up to the government to deal with.
If the contractor screwed up and spilled the water, the EPA could go after the contractor for failing to follow the contract. (Depending on how exactly the contract was written)
People outside that contractual relationship that were harmed by the spill would be suing the government/EPA, since they are the people responsible for cleaning up such mines.
malaise
(268,998 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)RKP5637
(67,108 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)He should be hounded where ever he goes...worthless taint.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Gold mining in Bullhead City is in vogue as well. We can thank Senator McCain for his tireless efforts to boost the AZ economy by promoting pollution, deregulation and support for the MIC.
kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)I wish though I could have seen McCain run back into the suv.
I am so proud of my native brothers and sisters.
Omaha Steve
(99,632 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,804 posts)And thanks for the reminder!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Go, Bernie Sanders Group!
packman
(16,296 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)More politicians should be run out of towns
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)...but WTF did he have to do with the EPA fuckup? I don't think he is a big EPA booster. Heads should roll, and I mean HEADS over this but again, what did McCain have to do with it?
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Earlier this week, Washington DC saw two days of demonstrations organized by Apache Stronghold a Native American advocacy group to protest a deal which handed 2400 acres of sacred lands belonging to the San Carlos Apache tribe to foreign mining company, Resolution Copper. The land deal was slipped at the last-minute into the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) last December by Arizona Republican Senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake where it sidestepped most of the usual scrutiny.
http://reverbpress.com/religion/apache-religious-rights-gop-sells-land/
Native Americans Against John McCain
https://www.facebook.com/NativesAgainstJohnMcCain
former9thward
(32,006 posts)It was not taken from them. Details, details.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)in the lurch."
Why is Congress giving federally protected Arizona land sacred to the Apache to a massive mining conglomerate?
(The Details, details).
snip---
Year after year the bills failed to pass. But in December, the legislation was was quietly passed into law as part of the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act. Arizona Sen. John McCain, who has long championed the deal, said the land exchange would maintain the strength of the most technologically advanced military in the world since copper is the second-most-utilized mineral by the Department of Defense.
As part of the deal, Resolution Copper will swap roughly 7.8 square miles of land scattered across Arizona for roughly 3.8 square miles of Tonto National Forest, which includes Oak Flat. The new legislation will open up Oak Flat for copper mining.
But critics say the move allows the company to privatize the land and make an end run around critical environmental and cultural protections. Whats more Resolution Copper cant promise that any of the copper produced by the mine will remain in the United States which raises the question: How does this help national defense?
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2015/2/20/in-arizona-the-governments-copper-grab-leaves-apaches-in-the-lurch.html
former9thward
(32,006 posts)It was not. This was NOT Apache land. I was in error when I said the Tribe sold it. I mixed up this dispute with another that is taking place in the Grand Canyon area. But you attempted to say the land was stolen from the Tribe. It was not their land. Nice try indeed.
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Zorra
(27,670 posts)it was public land, and the Tribe still uses the land. It is ancestral Apache land, (and yes, it was stolen from them, just not recently) and McCain and Flake sold it out from under them in bad faith.
Democratic Representative Raul Grijalva:
Congress shouldnt be in the business of helping big corporations at others expense, and it certainly shouldnt break faith with Native American communities. Im proud to lead our bipartisan team in saying we should repeal this giveaway and stop treating corporate handouts as national defense priorities.
But yes, technically, in lawyer world, the Apache did not "own" the land at the time this dirty deal by McCain and Flake went down.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)So basically according to you there should be no development in the state except casinos of course.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)The last thing I want to see is this land become Chicago.
But for now just keeping the major destroyers of the earth out would be a big plus.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The consistency of your inaccuracies is nothing short of dramatic.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Under his watch, treaties have not been honored, land and minerals rights continue to be stolen.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. thanks for the info. Makes a lot more sense now.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's a huge deal in the state he represents in Congress. If something like that had happened in Massachusetts, Kennedy would have been all over it.
Gigabear
(58 posts)he just happened to be a handy target.
I keep saying when are we going to hear from the White House? Not a word, Begaye said, according to Native News. When somebody wins the Super Bowl or an NBA Championship, they get a call, right? And when something like this happens and people are suffering, nothing.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Actually Navajos didnt scalp (they feared handling the dead) but I would think theyd make an exception in his case.
Hekate
(90,686 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)red dog 1
(27,804 posts)I wish Donald Trump would go visit those Navajos.
K&R
Gloria
(17,663 posts)that more land around the Grand Canyon should be off limits to mining and other sordid things...the Dem reps are all in favor of it.
One Rethug actually said that "we already have enough monuments." Yeah, like that matters...we're talking the Grand Canyon,
major source of tourist bucks, wonder of the world....but who cares? Let's just have rigs in sight of the canyon, on Indian Land, where it is not supposed to be...
I think the Navajo Nation should go after those AZ commissioners while they are at it...
me b zola
(19,053 posts)lib87
(535 posts)I bet he didn't see that one coming.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)And a lot of those cops are Navajo. "I have my orders." So did the Waffen-SS. Fucking cops.
okasha
(11,573 posts)What did you want to happen? McCain injured or killed? That would do exactly what for the Dine?
As it was, McCain got run off the rez, the Dine made their point graphically and effectively, and no one got hurt.
And look at those women in the lead. You go, sisters!
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)This Haudenosaunee supports you!
merrily
(45,251 posts)The article says about 50 tribal police and county police.
I very much doubt that group was going to kill anyone. The police did not really contain them and no one died. They caught up to McCain and no one died. They wanted to confront him.
There were about 50 NN Police, as well as County Police. Protesters took off in cars and followed McCain to the airport. The bridge to the airport was closed off.
Bye John McCain! There are a lot of things on the Navajo Nation that our groups large and small are going to tackle. We cannot trust our Government, so we will make things right, ourselves.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Love that video!
Caretha
(2,737 posts)I just wish it had been hundreds of thousands chasing his vehicle. Fuck McCain the traitor
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Anyway he knows how. Withhold funds.
But it's a wonderful moment. Thank you.
That's his normal behavior.
Vindictive guy.
tclambert
(11,086 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)And good for them!
Cha
(297,240 posts)Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)TygrBright
(20,760 posts)Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)Time for the old "Maverick" to retire, I'd say!
***For the sake of posterity***: I do not mean "off the reservation" in ANY derogatory way toward Native People, First Nations or, as I prefer, American Indians, seeing as I am part Cherokee on my Maternal side, and have learned that I am also part Blackfoot, also from Maternal side. My grandmother was full blood Cherokee and we found out that on my Maternal grandfather's side they are part Blackfoot/Blackfeet. No offense intended toward ANYONE, and I apologize in advance if anyone*was* offended. That was NOT my intention at all.
I could have said "nuttier than squirrel shit", or a hundred other things, but this just seemed appropriate given the thread title.***
Peace,
Ghost
C Moon
(12,213 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)By what authority (quo warranto) did the armed people put their hands on unarmed demonstrators to prevent them from leaving a building or from running behind a car?
I don't know if they were tribal police or county police or what, but McCain was inside the car, the car never stopped and the people were unarmed. Are they not allowed to tell their Senator his visit offends them?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Recommended.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)over and over again.
angel823
(409 posts)ffr
(22,670 posts)We invaders from Europe just sit on our thumbs.
Every Republi should be protested and voted out of office on every level.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Well done, Navaho!
catbyte
(34,386 posts)Chii megwetch for running that sorry POS off your land. Awesome.