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Archae

(46,335 posts)
Sun May 20, 2012, 02:43 PM May 2012

Modern-day grave robbing...

This will be on a second show of "60 Minutes" tonight, at 8pm Eastern.

(CBS News) Problems at America's cemeteries, including exhuming bodies so plots can be resold, are raising questions about whether this part of the multibillion dollar "death-care" business needs more monitoring. 60 Minutes examines this largely unexamined industry, which in many cases is controlled by large corporations, and which consumer advocates believe may be taking advantage of people at a particularly vulnerable time in their lives. Anderson Cooper reports this story for a special edition of 60 Minutes Sunday, May 20 at 8:00 p.m. ET/PT.

In one of the most egregious cases, workers at Burr Oak Cemetery near Chicago had been removing headstones and coffins and dumping bodies in mass graves so plots could be resold. Says Sheriff Tom Dart, "This was all about greed and overarching that is the fact that these areas are so horribly unregulated, it allows for that to happen," he says. "There was no record of anything...how many people are supposed to be buried here...and truly, in any cemetery do you know...who is under there?" asks Dart.

"It's sort of the Wild West," says Josh Slocum, executive director of Funeral Consumers Alliance, a non-profit watchdog group. Slocum believes more monitoring of cemeteries is necessary. He says that since 1984 the Federal Trade commission has required funeral homes to provide bereaved consumers with clear price lists and other disclosures. "You can think of that as a consumer bill of rights at the funeral home," Slocum says. "But those rights stop at the cemeteries."

A number of the cemeteries featured in Cooper's report belong to Service Corporation International, or SCI, the largest provider of funeral and cemetery services in North America.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57436612/cemeteries-draw-complaints/?tag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

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Modern-day grave robbing... (Original Post) Archae May 2012 OP
Nasty! And that's just ASKIN' for trouble, too... Poll_Blind May 2012 #1
just be cremated and be done with it bloomington-lib May 2012 #2
Cremate? Just feed me to the crows. FSogol May 2012 #3
No kidding. What a bunch of scumbags. DCKit May 2012 #4
SCI - GWB buddies. Got them out of legal trouble in Texas. SharonAnn May 2012 #12
The Free Market bongbong May 2012 #5
I found a grave dump here in Fairview Oregon... Boxerfan May 2012 #6
Good for you for contacting the Oregonian about it. That's messed up! Poll_Blind May 2012 #7
Sept 1999: Bush Tangled In Funeral Suit (SCI) Electric Monk May 2012 #8
I thought SCI sounded familiar. Archae May 2012 #9
On now (kick) Electric Monk May 2012 #10
For the record, tombs in New Orleans have been recycled since the beginning..... Edweird May 2012 #11
 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
4. No kidding. What a bunch of scumbags.
Sun May 20, 2012, 04:04 PM
May 2012

I'm not at all sentimental about the dead, but I respect the feelings of those who are, and this is a horrible thing to do to the bereaved.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
6. I found a grave dump here in Fairview Oregon...
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:42 PM
May 2012

I use a metal detector for fun & excercise. Just down the road from my house I noticed the county had dumped a bunch of piles of dirt . Seeing sod clumps in the piles I figured they came from a park during a project & might contain coins. So I started beeping the piles. I came across a lot of "fixtures" that looked like overly fancy bathroom towel holders?...

I kept beeping & found a plate with some inscriptions under the grime. Pocketed the plate & started on the next pile & found some "long" bones...Then looking around I saw skull pieces,vertabrae & the last piece of evidence I needed before calling the cops-Dentures-more than one pair...

Called the local PD & they verified it was human remains. I took the plate out of my pocket & cleaned it off a bit-it said "rest in peace". Then it all made sense.The 'holders" were casket handles. And these were grave remains.

The county was called & basically tried to explain it was all a big mistake & they had cleaned the remains up-that evening...
TOTAL BS...No way they could have sifted the piles. So I contaced the Oregonian. They ran a story & eventually it was exposed they had dumped older graves for resale. You'd think it would be a big scandal. But the piles are still there & thats probably going to be the final resting spot for Oregonians who helped build this city. A roadside dirt dump pile.

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2011/01/fairview_man_discovers_human_r.html

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
7. Good for you for contacting the Oregonian about it. That's messed up!
Sun May 20, 2012, 05:57 PM
May 2012

A friend of mine found something similar because he used to live near the cemetery way out on Donald street in Eugene. He found a bunch of the most amazing weird metal pieces- they were fabulous looking, kind of like something art deco from the movie Metropolis. Being a Eugenian (god bless him!) he tried to turn one of them into a marijuana pipe. That's one of the things we do in Eugene with found objects: Try to turn them into something we can smoke weed out of, LOL!

Anyway, neither of us could figure out what the metal pieces were and they were fucking up his drill bits like mad, so he started doing research on the word "vitallium" (which was stamped on the side), to find out why what the fuck these indestructible, odd-looking metal things were.

It's then that he realized they were artificial hip joints!



We assumed later that they probably weren't dumped improperly, but they were from cremations and they just wanted to keep the ashes for the families instead of all the metal bits from their health problems in life. So they just tossed them out on the neighboring property, which was kind of wooded.

IIRC, he did manage to turn one of them into a pipe but he had to kill a number of pricy drill bits to get through the ball. Looked like something out of steampunk. Smoked a little hot for my tastes, IIRC.

That was almost 20 years ago, now that I think about it. Shit, someday soon, someone's going to be finding my bits and pieces and turning them into a marijuana pipe!

That's the circle of life in Eugene for ya!



PB

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
8. Sept 1999: Bush Tangled In Funeral Suit (SCI)
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:20 PM
May 2012

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But when it comes to the whistle-blower case now embroiling Texas' funeral industry, it's hard to say who wants the publicity less: governor and presidential hopeful George W. Bush, who eluded testifying in the case last week, or Service Corporation International, the Houston funerary titan whose hallmark is tasteful discretion. Both are under close scrutiny in the wake of former funeral industry regulator Eliza May's 7-month-old suit against the state, SCI and its chairman. Although Bush is not a defendant, his staff is accused of pressing for May's firing, and Bush was subpoenaed to testify until winning exemption last week from a county district judge. May's lawyers say they may appeal.

(snip)

According to May, former executive director of the commission, these relationships led to a conspiracy. SCI, Bush and his staff, she alleges, pressured the commission to fire her for leading an inquiry that resulted in a $445,000 fine against SCI.

more: http://articles.latimes.com/1999/sep/05/news/mn-7210

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