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This Graphic Will Offend Your Anti-Gay Relatives – Guaranteed! (Original Post) Playinghardball May 2012 OP
The people that need to see that, can't see the similarities. They can't get it. RC May 2012 #1
Or they still think the folks in the bottom panel are 'heroes' n2doc May 2012 #2
Yeah - "taking America back" Plucketeer May 2012 #5
yeah kardonb May 2012 #8
Remember the frat boys in Borat wanting to bring back slavery? alfredo May 2012 #9
Fuckin Aye! Poll_Blind May 2012 #3
THAT nt arely staircase May 2012 #4
Traditions pokerfan May 2012 #6
That one's great too! n/t beac May 2012 #15
+1 K&R n/t azurnoir May 2012 #7
Perfect. That's my go-to graphic for Shankapotomus May 2012 #10
How many of these folk theaocp May 2012 #11
Apples and Oranges. Stick to civil rights and what marriage legally means. SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #12
Um... berni_mccoy May 2012 #13
Then please tell us, O Wise One, liberalhistorian May 2012 #16
A marriage contract is a civil right.... SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #32
"Religion wasn't a factor" Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #35
Heres a link for you - arguments were Bible based FreeState May 2012 #38
Since when... eaglesfanintn May 2012 #17
Exactly. I don't think any religious people will be won over by claims that it's a right though.... SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #33
say what? Kali May 2012 #24
Fly a kite. eShirl May 2012 #26
Um.... jeff47 May 2012 #30
The difference is religion. SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #34
No, actually it isn't. jeff47 May 2012 #36
Why on earth was it so difficult for the NAACP to support gay marriage? And why the pushback . . . SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #37
The reason religion is not different jeff47 May 2012 #39
I disagree. Religion is used as the sole reason/excuse for preventing gays to marry. SleeplessinSoCal May 2012 #40
What so southern prejudice wast based on religion? FreeState May 2012 #42
NAACP's Long History on LGBT Equality FreeState May 2012 #41
K&R! (and right-clicked and saved!) n/t beac May 2012 #14
I swear I recognize some people in the top pic from the bottom one. malthaussen May 2012 #18
PERFECTAMUNDO!! +10000000000000000000000000000000 Bake May 2012 #19
... krispos42 May 2012 #20
Not to be fussy but they are looking pretty stupid TODAY LynneSin May 2012 #21
yep Kali May 2012 #25
Boils it down to incredibly simple terms - love it! Initech May 2012 #22
This is getting a good deal of play on facebook, and many anti-gay family members and friends are... HuckleB May 2012 #23
"One Man, One Woman for Life"? Rob H. May 2012 #27
Hmm, lets out some of Romney's ancestors... brooklynite May 2012 #31
This has been posted here before, but it really hits the nail on the head. harmonicon May 2012 #28
Look closely...it's the same damn people! CanonRay May 2012 #29

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. Or they still think the folks in the bottom panel are 'heroes'
Reply to RC (Reply #1)
Sun May 20, 2012, 06:08 PM
May 2012

And dream of fighting that battle again.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
8. yeah
Sun May 20, 2012, 07:29 PM
May 2012

That's right . Lets take our country back from the brink Bonehead and "friends " want o take us over !

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
32. A marriage contract is a civil right....
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:18 PM
May 2012

... but it's not comparable to interracial marriage. That was based on racism. Religion wasn't a factor. The entire argument against same sex marriage is based on the Old Testament.

I think it's more important to stress what a marriage contract means as a civil right and as a financial burden.

eaglesfanintn

(82 posts)
17. Since when...
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:54 AM
May 2012

is marriage not a right? Driving your car is a privilege, marriage is a right.
It wasn't so long ago that people of different races weren't allowed to marry. Is a white man marrying a black woman not a right? So, if that black woman becomes a black man, what changed? They still love each other, are committed to each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. Who are you to prevent that?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
33. Exactly. I don't think any religious people will be won over by claims that it's a right though....
Mon May 21, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

My gut tells me that getting to the crux of what a contract of marriage is will be more likely to turn down the heat on the debate. And stressing that the right to marry is purely legal and that religious ceremonies are dependent on the parties involved will win over another segment of the population. Civil Rights come with a price. It's worth paying, but often means several steps backwards before catching up and going forward.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/15/opinion/la-oe-segall-gay-marriage-backlash-20120515

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. Um....
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:07 PM
May 2012

The people in the top photo are protesting to "protect marriage".

The people in the bottom photo are protesting to "protect marriage".

The difference is......?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
36. No, actually it isn't.
Mon May 21, 2012, 11:23 PM
May 2012

Preachers in the era of the lower photo spent a lot of time preaching how God created multiple races, and man shouldn't mix them. Many churches were quite upset that interracial marriage would be forced upon them.

But feel free to try again.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
37. Why on earth was it so difficult for the NAACP to support gay marriage? And why the pushback . . .
Wed May 23, 2012, 01:21 AM
May 2012

now that they support it? It's because pastors in most black churches have condemned homosexuality. I've had this debate many times and fear that this road is leading to a dead end. Whereas legal arguments will win in eventually. Stick to civil rights and the contract. Take out the emotional charge. That's my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
39. The reason religion is not different
Wed May 23, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012

is because religion was used in both situations.

It doesn't matter if black churches are now speaking out against marriage equality. Because churches were speaking out against interracial marriage. It's the exact same thing.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
40. I disagree. Religion is used as the sole reason/excuse for preventing gays to marry.
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:09 PM
May 2012

Which is why so many church going black Americans in California oppose gay marriage. Even though they may have gained rights before 1967, their relatively progressive community (and their personal bias) have them on the wrong side of history.

Plus if you look at this map you see a civil war era divide. To me that says not religion, but racism was more of a factor for banning interracial marriage.



U.S States, by the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws:
gray - No laws passed
green - Repealed before 1887
yellow -Repealed from 1948 to 1967
red - Overturned on 12 June 1967

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
42. What so southern prejudice wast based on religion?
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:45 AM
May 2012

When I look at that map I see something very simulate to the hate map at Souther Poverty Law Center, and nearly all of the groups base their beliefs about race on religion.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
41. NAACP's Long History on LGBT Equality
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:40 AM
May 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nadine-smith/naacps-long-history-on-lg_b_1532500.html

This isn't the first time the NAACP has stepped out on principle on an issue that affects the lives of LGBT people. Nor is it the first time they will experience a predictable, orchestrated backlash. Those of us celebrating their decision to support marriage equality must now also step up on the organization's behalf.

Over the weekend, the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization took the logical yet heroic step of publicly supporting marriage rights for gay couples. In doing so, the NAACP has joined President Obama and Hispanic civil rights leaders in dramatically accelerating the movement for marriage equality and hastening the day when it becomes the law of the land. The exhilaration and pride I felt as a black lesbian in my civil rights organization took me back nearly 20 years, to the time that the NAACP stepped out on a skinnier limb at a pivotal moment to stand up for LGBT equality.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
18. I swear I recognize some people in the top pic from the bottom one.
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:22 PM
May 2012

But the caption is foolish. These people do not look "stupid" to the only people they care about -- their fellow bigots.

-- Mal

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
23. This is getting a good deal of play on facebook, and many anti-gay family members and friends are...
Mon May 21, 2012, 12:35 PM
May 2012

... not happy. What I've noticed, when i see the discussions under the post, when friends have made it, is that the anti-gay crowd doesn't get far.

It's probably meaningless, but maybe not completely.

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
27. "One Man, One Woman for Life"?
Mon May 21, 2012, 02:34 PM
May 2012

Given how high divorce rates are in the red states (way higher than among the blue states), I wonder how many of the people in that top photo have been married before, and of those, how many have remarried. Down here in the Bible Belt, that's considered adultery in some faiths (the Southern Baptist Convention, for one).

Hmm....

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
28. This has been posted here before, but it really hits the nail on the head.
Mon May 21, 2012, 03:00 PM
May 2012

Little more than those pictures and that sentence are needed for the importance of being on the right side of history to hit home.

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