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madville

(7,412 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:06 PM Aug 2015

Is it a good idea for the UN/IAEA to allow Iran to inspect it's own sites for wrongdoing?

Because according to AP, documents leaked today show that the IN/IAEA is going to allow Iran to inspect some of it's own nuclear sites with Iranian inspectors and then submit pictures and videos to the IAEA. UN inspectors will not be allowed on-site at any time.

It's a small piece of the overall deal but it's all anyone will be talking about from now until the vote I bet.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAN_NUCLEAR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-19-13-06-05

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Is it a good idea for the UN/IAEA to allow Iran to inspect it's own sites for wrongdoing? (Original Post) madville Aug 2015 OP
I hope people will consider the source Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #1
It's not part of the Iran deal. This is the IAEA inspecting for PAST activities. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #2
The article says it is madville Aug 2015 #5
The Parchin agreement is about PAST activities. That is between the IAEA and Iran. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #8
Wrong madville Aug 2015 #10
THE PARCHIN AGREEMENT DOES NOT COVER NUCLEAR SITES. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #14
They also said there were no side deals madville Aug 2015 #18
Do you get all of your news from Fox or from the Weekly Standard? geek tragedy Aug 2015 #19
where does it say that? Mosby Aug 2015 #6
below the headline. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #9
So the "most robust inspection regime" madville Aug 2015 #11
No, that's not what's happening. It's been explained to you several times geek tragedy Aug 2015 #13
The current agreement requires madville Aug 2015 #15
THESE CONDITIONS DO NOT APPLY TO THE NUCLEAR SITES. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #16
Thanks for doing the research. randome Aug 2015 #17
So the place where the bulk of Iran's nuclear work madville Aug 2015 #20
No. Please stop lying your ass off in order to promote a war. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #21
Is it a good idea for a republican talking point to be foisted on DU?? Boxerfan Aug 2015 #3
The U.N. will handle its own inspections as they see fit. randome Aug 2015 #4
I thought the lifting of sanctions was dependent madville Aug 2015 #7
To be honest, I don't really care about the delicate details. randome Aug 2015 #12
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. It's not part of the Iran deal. This is the IAEA inspecting for PAST activities.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:11 PM
Aug 2015

Inspections of CURRENT and FUTURE activities will not be governed by those protocols.

madville

(7,412 posts)
5. The article says it is
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:17 PM
Aug 2015

"The Parchin agreement was worked out between the IAEA and Iran. The United States and the five other world powers were not party to it but were briefed by the IAEA and endorsed it as part of the larger package."

Will have to see how this plays out, I was under the impression that lifting the sanctions and releasing funds was dependent on compliance with IAEA inspections.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. The Parchin agreement is about PAST activities. That is between the IAEA and Iran.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

the Iran nuclear deal involving the P5+1 is about CURRENT and FUTURE activities.

Not sure what part of this you are not understanding.

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. Wrong
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:29 PM
Aug 2015

The recent agreement requires Iran to comply with IAEA inspections into past activities. The side agreements between IAEA and Iran are intertwined with the present Iran deal.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. THE PARCHIN AGREEMENT DOES NOT COVER NUCLEAR SITES.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:42 PM
Aug 2015

IT DOES NOT COVER:

NATANZ
FORDOW
ARAK.

PARCHIN IS NOT A NUCLEAR SITE.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. Do you get all of your news from Fox or from the Weekly Standard?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:49 PM
Aug 2015

Your slip is showing.

Just in case you're merely seriously confused rather than trolling on behalf of the warmongers' effort:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/248856-white-house-acknowledges-side-deals-between-iran-iaea

National security adviser Susan Rice on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of side agreements between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Rice said the deals involve Iran accounting for past military uses of its nuclear program, but rejected GOP assertions that this represented “secret” side deals to the Iranian nuclear agreement.


That was three weeks ago.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. below the headline.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:29 PM
Aug 2015
On Wednesday, White House National Security Council spokesman Ned Price said the Obama administration was "confident in the agency's technical plans for investigating the possible military dimensions of Iran's former program. ... The IAEA has separately developed the most robust inspection regime ever peacefully negotiated."

...

Iran has refused access to Parchin for years and has denied any interest in - or work on - nuclear weapons. Based on U.S., Israeli and other intelligence and its own research, the IAEA suspects that the Islamic Republic may have experimented with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms.

The IAEA has cited evidence, based on satellite images, of possible attempts to sanitize the site since the alleged work stopped more than a decade ago.





madville

(7,412 posts)
11. So the "most robust inspection regime"
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:31 PM
Aug 2015

Ever peacefully negotiated let's Iran conduct it's own inspections?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. No, that's not what's happening. It's been explained to you several times
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:36 PM
Aug 2015

why the line of Neocon, Republican bullshit you insist on peddling is untrue.

But, I will type this S-L-O-W-L-Y for you in the off chance you're not dishonestly trolling.

The Parchin site agreement involves work THAT ENDED OVER A DECADE AGO.

Iran has refused access to Parchin for years and has denied any interest in - or work on - nuclear weapons. Based on U.S., Israeli and other intelligence and its own research, the IAEA suspects that the Islamic Republic may have experimented with high-explosive detonators for nuclear arms.

The IAEA has cited evidence, based on satellite images, of possible attempts to sanitize the site since the alleged work stopped more than a decade ago.


"SINCE THE ALLEGED WORK STOPPED MORE THAN A DECADE AGO.

It is an investigation into PAST behavior, not inspections of CURRENT behavior.

Are you playing stupid, or is this really above your head?

madville

(7,412 posts)
15. The current agreement requires
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:43 PM
Aug 2015

Compliance with IAEA inspections of PAST activity. If IAEA is really allowing Iran to conduct it's own inspections of itself and declaring them compliant as part of the conditions to lift sanctions then they are all related to the current deal.

That's been in the reported conditions of the current deal the whole time, did you miss that?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. Thanks for doing the research.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:46 PM
Aug 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

madville

(7,412 posts)
20. So the place where the bulk of Iran's nuclear work
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:51 PM
Aug 2015

Occurred is now not a nuclear site that they can self-inspect, makes total sense.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
21. No. Please stop lying your ass off in order to promote a war.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:54 PM
Aug 2015

PARCHIN WAS NEVER A NUCLEAR RESEARCH SITE.

The nuclear sites are Natanz, Arak, and Fordow.

Parchin is a rocket and high explosives site.

Every Democrat of good faith can see right through your Republican lies and obfuscation.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. The U.N. will handle its own inspections as they see fit.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

The U.S. and the other signatories to the treaty will handle their own inspections as they see fit.

See? Easy.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

madville

(7,412 posts)
7. I thought the lifting of sanctions was dependent
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:22 PM
Aug 2015

On compliance with IAEA inspections? The U.S. won't be sending inspectors in, the inspections are conducted through the UN's IAEA. So the Iran deal is intertwined with these IAEA inspections, they aren't two separate things.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. To be honest, I don't really care about the delicate details.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:34 PM
Aug 2015

It's a step forward and provides for more stability in that part of the world. Go, team!
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