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yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:26 PM Aug 2015

Where is the evidence that "Birthright citizenship" is a problem?

I know that Trump and the GOP don't need evidence, but seriously, this is so easy to shoot down. The idea that large numbers of pregnant women are risking their lives to get to a U.S. hospital to deliver a baby is just ludicrous. So said baby citizen can get legal status for the parents? Really? Here is how that would actually work.

The law requires that to sponsor an undocumented parent for a green card a child must first reach the age of 21. But at that point—more than two decades after arrival—an undocumented parent who entered illegally is not eligible to apply for a green card in the U.S. The parent must leave and apply abroad. And once the parent departs the U.S., another part of the law bans his or her return for 10 years.

The “magnet” to which Trump refers is an arduous 31-year-long slog to legal status for the undocumented parent: 21 years for the child to be able to sponsor the parent and 10 years of banishment from the U.S. because of their previously unlawful presence.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/immigration-lawyer-birthright-citizenship

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SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. He is just a racist ...he's only concentrating on Mexico.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:38 PM
Aug 2015

As if they were the only country that have people coming in illegally

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. ^^^THIS^^^
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:42 PM
Aug 2015

No mention of the white illegals from the UK, Australia and New Zealand coming through Canada and those from other European countries. Apparently he hired a bunch of Polish undocumented construction workers who worked without hard hats and that he paid only $4 or $5 an hour.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. From 1990:Trump Says He Didn't Know He Employed Illegal Aliens
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:23 AM
Aug 2015

Donald J. Trump took the witness stand yesterday to deny seven-year-old charges that he knowingly used 200 undocumented workers to demolish the old Bonwit Teller building to make way for Trump Tower, the glittering centerpiece of his real-estate empire.

Testifying in a case that has survived years of legal challenges, Mr. Trump said he did not know the workers were undocumented and that the demolition in the summer of 1980 was delegated to a contractor, Kaszycki & Sons Contractors, which did all the hiring.

The lawsuit, by some members of Housewreckers Local 95, charges that Mr. Trump, desperate to meet deadlines on a vast project whose intricate financing was partly dependent upon them, overlooked the use of undocumented Polish immigrants, who allegedly worked round-the-clock and even slept at the site.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/nyregion/trump-says-he-didn-t-know-he-employed-illegal-aliens.html

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Its about voting, the GOP was not able suppress enough votes so they want to prevent the anchor
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:57 PM
Aug 2015

Babies from voting.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. Like 'voter fraud', 'Benghazi' and others, if you repeat the term enough some people start to think
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:05 PM
Aug 2015

there must be some fire where there is so much 'smoke' even though the 'smoke' is artificial.

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
5. So, go back to your horrible country and hopefully after ten years, they will let you depart.
Thu Aug 20, 2015, 05:09 PM
Aug 2015
The parent must leave and apply abroad. And once the parent departs the U.S., another part of the law bans his or her return for 10 years.

So ridiculous and cruel.
 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. The funny thing about this issue is who actually does it
Fri Aug 21, 2015, 03:46 AM
Aug 2015

This is almost exclusively the domain of the very affluent who either want to give their children an advantage or a parachute by way of US citizenship.

I work with a South African woman who was born in Miami in 1975, her parents saw the way the wind was blowing and being Afrikaners with no plausible claim to European citizenship wanted their children to have a guaranteed way out.

The South Vietnamese and Taiwanese were probably the first to really do this deliberately on a large scale.

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