It is time to unfuck America.
U.S. gun violence "dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism." - President Barack Obama
Found Here: http://all-hat-no-cattle.blogspot.com/
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So proudly we hail.......
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America The Beautiful
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
- Martin Niemoller
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America, you’re sick.
There is much about you which is beautiful. But a part of you is diseased.
It’s the part which speaks about being “pro-life”, but then casts aside those who are already here.
It’s the part which sees someone different than you as a cancer to be cut out.
It’s the part which revels in violence, both at home and abroad.
We’ve had Trayvon Martin. We’ve had Mike Brown. We’ve had Eric Garner. And each time justice was denied.
But that’s okay, isn’t it? It was “them” who got it. “They” deserved it. “They” always deserve it. They’re lazy. They’re thugs. They don’t respect themselves. They’re animals.
But “they” is a funny idea. You can go along your whole life, confident in the notion that you’re “one of us”, that you’re of the elect, that the world is made to cater to you. And then, suddenly, one day, without expecting it, you’re no longer “us”. You’ve become “them”. You’re no longer needed. You’re expendable.
Read the Rest Here. Seriously READ IT ALL~ http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/03/america-the-beautiful-2/
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Inconvenient facts, those.
Somehow, it has to be unfair for you to bring them up...or something. 
Besides, you know the drill:
The 99+ percent that don't commit gun violence have blood on their hands for the actions of the less than .1 percent, and should be shunned, ridiculed, lambasted, mocked, belittled, and in every other way hassled, because guns.
The alert on you, and the alert on me were in the same thread, one a bit after the other.
One was denied, which would have made it impossible for the first alerter to be the same alerter as the second one.
So the question is this:
How is it that two alerts from different alerters in the same thread, use the exact same alert message word for word ?
Al Swearengen may claim not to collude or cahoot, but someone sure is.
Hmmmm,
Oh well, have a good night. 
If you say so.
You can't make this shit up.
I...um...I mean...ahh...I don't have the words.
This:
You are quite the piece or work, aren't you? The only response that sort of insult and slander deserve would be "go fuck yourself," but I'll make one last exception.
Yes, you most certainly did misapply the statistics you cited, as I explained (in a manner I doubt most reasonable persons would describe as "condescending"
in my initial reply to you. You may not understand the explanation, but it was absolutely valid. Frankly, anyone with even a basic, 101-level familiarity with the field would recognize the error you committed in trying to assign a general probability to a specific instance in the presence of multiple variables. I assure you my familiarity is rather deeper than that, and your claim that my explanation "not applicable in this instance" is bullshit.
No one attempted to. The issue isn't with the statistics themselves, it's with how you attempted to apply them. RIF (yes, now I'm being condescending...you richly earned it).
But thanks for the "mansplaining" accusation. Even after a night's sleep, that's still pure comedy gold.
and peace to you and yours, and have a great weekend.
You claimed it addressed suicide. It didn't. It didn't address ANY new gun violence research because CDC hasn't DONE ANY gun violence research since 1996 because the Republican Congress has BLOCKED FUNDING.
I'm not letting you waste any more of my time.
You presented the report as a research report. It was not. It does not "address" suicide. It just mentions that there should be research on it. Duh. In fact, it proved my point that the CDC has not been able to do gun violence research because the NRA-fearing Republican Congress defunded such research.
You should be embarrassed, particularly if you really are a lawyer. If you pulled that crap in court, the opposing side (and the judge) would tear you apart. And you would lose all credibility. Like you have lost it with me.
You post crap apparently hoping people won't actually read your links. And when someone does give you the benefit of the doubt and spends time reading your links and points out your lies, you insult them, suggesting they are closed-minded. Disgusting.
Just stop already and leave me alone.
How a firearm is used is up to the user, not the firearm, which, again, is designed to propel a projectile down a hollow tube.
Is this designed to kill people and animals?
Or this one?
No, they're not, they're designed for competition shooting.
puts the US gun homicide rate at 3.7/100k 
Must be NRA propaganda
What's your point?Oh, wait. Never mind. 
Opposition to banning handgun ownership remains at record-high 74%
Public support for stricter gun laws is down from 58% in the days after the December 2012 Newtown shootings, and is lower than it was from 2000 through 2006, when, for the most part, solid majorities of Americans favored such laws. However, it remains slightly higher than from 2009 to 2011, when support for stricter laws fell to record lows of 44% and 43%. Gallup's full trend, dating to 1990, can be found on page 2.
The current results, based on an Oct. 3-6 Gallup poll conducted prior to a recent school shooting in Nevada, are unchanged from what Gallup found in September.
Americans Broadly Oppose Banning Handguns
The new poll also finds public opposition to banning handgun ownership holding at a record-high 74%, identical to a year ago. One in four Americans think the law should limit possession to police and other authorized persons.
Recent attitudes on this are markedly different from the 1980s, when barely half of Americans opposed a ban on civilian handgun ownership. It is also a major turnaround from a half century ago, when only 36% opposed such a ban. Opposition to banning citizens' possession of handguns mounted in the 1990s and 2000s, and first crossed the 70% threshold in 2009.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/165563/remains-divided-passing-stricter-gun-laws.aspx
Here are some interesting stats.
There were 310 million nonmilitary firearms in the United States as of 2009, according to federal figures.
20,947,258 - FBI firearm background checks in 2013.
From that bastion of conservative NRA propaganda (*snicker*) , Mother Jones:
Gun sales have been steadily rising for years and years.
How many more gun owners there are is difficult to determine. Obviously unverified telephone surveys are essentially useless in making this determination (a common problem with any such survey when the subject matter is controversial). There is no central database of gun owners (and such a database is actually specifically prohibited by law), and many states have no registration requirement. States that do have registration probably have significant rates of non-compliance. Estimates of compliance with New York's recent SAFE act and California's earlier registration requirements for "assault" weapons - based on firm figures for submitted registrations and reasonable estimations of the number of affected weapons out there - range from 2.5% to 6.5%). Basically, we have a really solid idea of how many weapons were sold...but a much more vague idea of to whom.
Personally, I think that 80 million to 100 million estimate makes sense...but there's too much grey area for real confidence.
And they form the vast majority of gun deaths. See my post #76 in this thread.
But as GGJohn will tell anyone who will listen, 20,000 dead each year is "statistically insignificant."
I take my chances of being killed in an auto accident every time I get into a car - so I guess it is reasonable I should also take my chances of being killed by someone who has gone nuts and has a gun just about every moment of my life.
Those first graders at school in Newtown took their chances. Hey, they had taken a chance being on a bus or car to get there! So what's the difference?
