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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:19 AM Aug 2015

Noam Chomsky on the Crisis Engulfing the West

http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/32121-interview-noam-chomsky-on-the-crisis-engulfing-the-west


Noam Chomsky: Well there are two main prongs to the current Obama strategy. They happen to be in conflict, which causes some problems in Washington. One is the drone campaign. Yemen has been the main target of the global assassination campaign. The most extraordinary global terrorism campaign in history. It is officially aimed at the ... as in this last strike ... it is aimed at people who are suspected of potentially being a danger to the United States. That's a pretty extreme form of terrorism. But it's accepted in the West. And Yemen has been the main target. Of course it's also a terror generating campaign, as is understood at the highest level. When you say attack a village and murder somebody who you're aiming at and maybe a couple of other people who are standing around, that does tend to elicit a call for revenge. And it has undoubtedly, it's not even questionable, increased what we call 'terrorism.' So it's a terrorism campaign, an incredible one. And also increasing terror as we can see.

The other prong is support for Saudi invasion, the bombing, the blockade, which has barred food and other supplies by air or by sea, direct bombing attacks also killing people regularly. These two things happen to be somewhat in conflict because the U.S. is supporting the Saudi attack and the Saudi attack, exported by the United States is offering a space for the operations of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the main source of what we call terror. So for example, the New York Times has an article on how Al Qaeda is expanding in Yemen, conquering new banks, cites, so on, because of the space that is left open by the war against the Houthi, the Saudi war who were the main enemy of Al Qaeda and are now engaged in a war basically with Saudi Arabia and now the United States. So these two elements of policy, both of them extremely harmful to Yemen, are also somewhat in conflict, which creates a problem for planners in Washington.
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Noam Chomsky on the Crisis Engulfing the West (Original Post) eridani Aug 2015 OP
There is no good way to extricate ourselves from the ME. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #1
We might try working with Iran to fight ISIS and Al Qaeda n/t eridani Aug 2015 #2
If we're going to be there anyway, LuvNewcastle Aug 2015 #7
Just remove all US presence from the ME. Do it now, start today. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #4
Precisely malaise Aug 2015 #8
+ Eighty Gazillion Scuba Aug 2015 #10
planes, trains, automobiles. they'd all work. KG Aug 2015 #11
Only "we" think it is a problem. tecelote Aug 2015 #3
Precisely. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #5
You get what you pay for. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #6
The Addiction To ME Oil Drives All Policy - Stop The Addiction - And Drone War Ends cantbeserious Aug 2015 #9
The effect of Saudi wars is to increase space for AQ/ISIS. That is also the intent. leveymg Aug 2015 #12
What would Bernie do? N/T SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2015 #13

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
7. If we're going to be there anyway,
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:28 AM
Aug 2015

we might as well fight those two. We certainly shouldn't be arming them to fight Assad. I don't have a problem with leaving Assad in control of Syria. We could get a lot worse, and we most likely would get someone worse if ISIS took controlling of the country.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
4. Just remove all US presence from the ME. Do it now, start today.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:19 AM
Aug 2015

And stop with the drones. Is our objective to generate more terrorists? Sometimes I wonder if that isn't the objective.

When we go to war there should be measurable progress. We should gain....something. For all our foreign entanglements we have gained nothing, not a fucking thing. But look what it has cost us!

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
3. Only "we" think it is a problem.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 05:00 AM
Aug 2015

Creating more terrorists is exactly what is needed if war is to be continual and war profits are to be maintained or increased.

Peace keeping has fallen by the wayside and now, America just assumes we'll be at war at all times. The word "Peace" isn't even uttered anymore.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. The effect of Saudi wars is to increase space for AQ/ISIS. That is also the intent.
Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:54 AM
Aug 2015

AQ/ISIS is nothing but the force of Wahhab Sunni Jihad against the Shi'ia minority, and increasingly against the west. It's an ancient war fought with unlimited funds that buy futuristic weapons turned against modernity. A giant Boolean loop that leads nowhere except to annihilation of civilization.

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