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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNothing positive was coming from my thread.
Sorry.
It's gone now. I'm going to listen for a while.
Same side, and all.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Sorry.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Good comment BTW in downing that frivolous alert. I was #6.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)hunter
(38,317 posts)But wow, what a flamefest.
Blus4u
(608 posts)Quite frankly it seemed out of character with what I had read in the past of your postings and comments. I have been here about three years and do not post often - I do more listening and learning than anything.
Peace
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Unless we have a world government,
Unless we have democratic world laws,
Unless we have a common world culture
You cannot change the poor versus rich
situation.
We live in a world of nation states, and as
such each nation will have to deal with
its social and financial problems. In many countries
women or gays live under severe repression; that
does not mean that the US can change that.
Thus your comparison is a total fail.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)where you indicate that earning $25,000/yr., puts one in the top 1% of earners globally.
You must understand ... This income inequality is, and always has been, about our purses, and little else.
Hekate
(90,714 posts)...for a family trying to raise kids.
He really made the point that Americans should be happy as all get out for competing with Third World people for wage scales? That in itself sounds like the argument made by CEOs who outsource US jobs to the lowest bidders overseas.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but that was just my take on it.
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Tell that to the suffering.
Rex
(65,616 posts)I cannot believe how hard that is for some to do. You totally made up the numbers, got called on it by at least 10 different people. So you self-deleted and moved on.
1939
(1,683 posts)Remember that people aren't worried about how little they make, they worry about how much someone else is making.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)position. You would like to call those of us, who would like
to decrease the income inequality, just as jealous.
Well, I am a democratic socialist, and I believe that someone
digging a ditch should not get 20 fold less in income than
his supervisor. The digger will probably pay more later
in life for health concerns than his supervisor. The supervisor
may have more responsibility, but probably less of a health
problem.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)What do you expect?
1939
(1,683 posts)I have made posts pointing out that the Democratic Party has carried the banner of free trade while the GOP was big on protective tariffs. I have nbever mentioned NAFTA or TPP in a post.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Edit to add: Saying republicans are the ones supporting tariffs and dems free trade applies to the situation decades ago, especially the early 1930s. Starting with Reagan/Bush, repukes have been negotiating fake free trade deals at a record pace. The majority of dems have been voting against most of them. How many dem votes did spoiled brat Bush Jr get for CAFTA?
pampango
(24,692 posts)Many liberals are also concerned that one ditch digger gets paid 1/20 of what another ditch digger is paid, if the former is in a poor country.
I agree with you that we should expect to have the ability to influence our own government's labor and taxation policies, so that we should be able to improve the wages of our ditch digger and, at least, tax the higher earnings of the supervisor.
That does not mean that we don't care or aren't concerned about the more distant ditch digger who make even less. We just don't have the ability, even in theory, to affect his situation appreciably other than perhaps to some limited extent by international agreements.
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laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Your notion that poor people are simply jealous, ranks right up there with trickle down theories.
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Pee on poor, who bel o ng where they are...mentality...bites the Whammy
Autumn
(45,107 posts)25 thousand a year does not put one into the 1%. Maybe in India it does, one might could go to a third world country and live really well on that but here in the US that's nowhere near the 1%.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Strange country - just like here - poor are much more hospitable - then the upper class and/or wealthy.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)It's why I don't want to hear ANY ONE of these idiots tell ME I'm playing "The Politics of Envy" when they're so fanatically jealous of this supposed "lifetime Golden ticket" poor welfare recipients supposedly get (hint - IT'S NOT).
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I lurk around, but I am sure that I did not see what you are referring to.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Please don't reply to me in threads for awhile. I'll do the same on yours. Thanks in advance. That was very triggering.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I don't know what was said, but don't let it spoil your day. Sometimes nice people say something mean by accident, sometimes mean people use DU for on-line bullying. Either way, the poster who upset you doesn't speak for the rest of us.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)right wing talking point is valuable as are the thoughts and emotions it brought to those already contemplating the extent to which revolutionary behavior may be necessary to bring about meaningful change. I say, "Bravo!"
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)world wide. I guess we all know that life here is better than for 6/7 of the world.
That does not mean it would not be better here if we reigned in the US 1% like we used to. That is what liberals work to have happen.
Us dealing with our own 1% does not really directly affect the rest of the world. It just affects us. We should do it. A healthy American middle class with strong unions and progressive taxes would be able to be more generous to the global poor just like Swedes and Germans are and just like FDR intended when he engineered the international organizations to guide the post-WWII world.
kpete
(71,996 posts)it is best to go out to the garden.....
i try to NEVER take DU personally
peace Recursion,
kp