re. Zimmerman: OK. It's ( He's) Back Again. Now, Wikipedia says the following:

[Smarmie Doofus]

>>>>In early 2011, Zimmerman participated in a citizen forum at the Sanford City Hall to protest the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white Sanford police officer. During the meeting, Zimmerman claimed he witnessed "disgusting behavior" while participating in a ride-along program with local police; however the police department said it did not know when, if ever, Zimmerman was in that program.[11][12]>>>>

True.... NOT True... or Irrelevant?

Strange how this episode.... assuming that it actually happened......keeps getting omitted form the numerous and voluminous DU narratives of the Zimmerman-Martin event.

So: question # 1 is: did the above actually happen?

[TheBlackAdder]

1. The Daily Caller Exclusive - An Unsubstantiated Claim by an Unidentified Family Member.

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"In a letter obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller on Monday, a family member of George Zimmerman ripped Seminole County, Fla. NAACP president Turner Clayton for a rush to judgment..."


"The family member, whose identity TheDC has confirmed but is withholding out of concern for the Zimmerman family’s safety, said George Zimmerman “has been found guilty” in the court of public opinion “until proven innocent,” adding that the details of what happened on Feb. 26 — the night Zimmerman shot Martin in what he claims was self-defense — “will not be disclosed until the police report is made public.”



"The letter also described how Zimmerman was one of “very few” in Sanford, Fla., who spoke out publicly to condemn the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on December 4, 2010 by the son of a Sanford police officer.”

“Do you know the individual that stepped up when no one else in the black community would?” the family member wrote. “Do you know who spent tireless hours putting flyers on the cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall meeting on January 8th, 2011 at Sanford City Hall??”

“That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN. Ironic isn’t it?”"



http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/zimmerman-family-member-calls-naacp-racists-says-there-will-be-blood-on-your-hands-if-george-is-hurt/

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[MrScorpio]

2. Yep, that looks like the kind of bullshit that the Daily Cesspool would publish. nt

[erpowers]

6. If True

If this Wikipedia story is true (and I have been told that everyone should take Wikipedia stories with a grain of salt) then why was he so afraid of a teenage black male. If George Zimmerman had spent so much time with black people and had worked so hard to organize black people why could he not gather the courage to tell Trayvon Martin who he was on the night that he shot Martin. According to George Zimmerman, he saw Trayvon Martin walking through their community and thought he might be considering breaking into one or more of the houses. Martin noticed Zimmerman watching him and walked by Zimmerman's car. At that moment Zimmerman could have either gotten out of his vehicle, or rolled his window down and told Trayvon Martin who he was and why he was watching him. If Zimmerman cared about black people so much and was so comfortable around black people why was he supposedly so afraid of a black teenager.

[Smarmie Doofus]

7. OK. But apparently there is a tape of the forum. AP has or had possession of it:

In other words, it's not just the Howler.

>>>The Miami Herald first reported details from the January 2011 community forum Wednesday. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the tape from the meeting.

In the speech, Zimmerman said he witnessed "disgusting" behavior by officers when he was part of a ride-along program, though the agency said it did not know when, if ever, Zimmerman was in that program.

"The officer showed me his favori>>>>>>

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/zimmerman-publicly-accused-sanford-police-of-corruption-in-2011-76322

Apparently he spoke publicly on tape at a forum. It's not ABSOLUTELY clear ( to me) that he spoke at the forum about the beating of the homeless man.

But that seems to be the implication.

[TheBlackAdder]

8. Need the time line of when he washed out as an officer candidate - could be retribution.

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I doubt with his behaviors after the shooting, and the relationship with his girlfriend, he's has moral fortitude.


He brought up a bunch of immaterial information that seemed more of a hit against officers and the force. He supposedly went door-to-door and to churches to pass out fliers, etc... to get several officers thrown out. Trying to ensure that the pension was revoked for the outed chief.


He supposedly abused and threatened his girlfriend and took it upon himself to get into other people's business. He disregarded the 911 caller's requests, etc. I do not put anything past that man and hold very little of what he says as factual--many of his actions seem to based on retribution. It is not a far reach that his behaviors at that meeting were to be punitive for his washing out as a potential officer. Others warrant more attention at this point. His credibility is his own making.


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[Smarmie Doofus]

10. Ok. You're painting a picture of a guy with a ( proverbial) bug up his ass.

That may or may not be true. In any case... there are a lot of people like that.

But the *political* significance of the Trayvon Martin shooting is/was/has always been that it was.... supposedly... *racially* motivated.

No? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that point. Please!)

In which case..... what specific evidence is there that he (Zimmerman) was motivated specifically by Martin's RACE or ethnicity?

E>G> Did he denounce black people on his Facebook page, trash-talk them indirectly or to their face, try to join the Klu Klux Klan?

In the absence of any of the aforementioned, is it not.... at the very least .... *puzzling* that the public defense of the homeless black man , by Zimmerman, against abuse at the hands of the kin of local (caucasian) police chief is routinely omitted on DU and elsewhere whenever the Zimmerman-Martin shooting is discussed?

I'm assuming, of course that such a public defense did in fact occur. Still haven't seen the tape anywhere nor read a verbatim account of his (assumed) j'accuses. But it seems to be widely acknowledged.... but dismissed.... by Zimmerman haters.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

11. Racial profiling, dude.

He had routinely called police regarding the presence of young black males in the neighborhood, always linking them to criminal activity in the neighborhood.

That night in February 2012, he acted according to pattern, claiming that Trayvon was "up to no good" despite not actually witnessing any criminal behavior for Trayvon.

The guy doesn't have to be a sworn member of the KKK in order to have been motivated by racial prejudices that night. Nor does the fact that he's half Hispanic (an ethnicity and not a race) preclude him from acting pursuant to racial prejudices.

Although if you have seen Zimmerman's Twitter page recently, he doesn't seem to be all that shy regarding voices his racial prejudices lately. It's pretty much an open book.

[hedgehog]

3. Even if it were true, Treyvon Martin is still dead.

[JI7]

4. like he rescued the family fRom a car accident

No evidence in those cases. But there is evidence he shot and killed a teen he was chasing

[trumad]

5. It could have happened?

But damn..5 years later he's a full on racist.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

9. We all know George Zimmerman could never harbor any sort of resentment against black people.

Do you know why?

Because he's half-Hispanic! Oh, and there's a possibility that one of his great grandparents may have possibly been black or so we might think.

And we all know that if you are of part Hispanic ethnicity, or that you could be 1/16th black, it automatically means you cannot have any sort of bias or disposition against black people!

Duh, people!