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red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 04:48 PM Sep 2015

SurveyUSA shows Trump Winning the Presidency - Ring of Fire Explains Why This is Hogwash

Ring of Fire Radio
September 8, 2015


SurveyUSA, a national political survey company, conducted a poll on September 2 and September 3 of 1,000 U.S. adults.
SurveyUSA claims that Donald trump is beating Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden in head-to-head match-ups.
Corporate media is running with this survey to show that Donald trump is the real deal, America's next President.
The Republican Party is dancing in the streets.
The problem is that the results of the survey are absurd, and yet no one in corporate media is questioning it.

What is the problem with the survey?
The most obvious is that it doesn't pass the smell test when you look at the results.
This should be the very first clue that something went wrong in the surveying techniques.
Specifically, SurveyUSA shows Trump winning 25% of black voters and 31% of Hispanic voters.
This is absurd.

In the elections of 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012, blacks voted for the GOP candidate
9 percent, 11 percent, 4 percent, and 6 percent, respectively.
Yet SurveyUSA wants us to believe that black voters have suddenly decided that Trump is worthy of 25 percent of their support.

Even more absurd is the Hispanic result.


Read more:
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/09/surveyusa-shows-trump-winning-the-presidency-rof-explains-why-this-and-all-other-corp-media-polling-is-hogwash



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SurveyUSA shows Trump Winning the Presidency - Ring of Fire Explains Why This is Hogwash (Original Post) red dog 1 Sep 2015 OP
I'd rather us take the polling serious and work to change it instead yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #1
"Id rather us take the polling serious and work to change it..."? red dog 1 Sep 2015 #2
Ok. Fine. You win. I just wish we did in 2014. Oh well we'll yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #4
Their point about 62% of the poll being people who answered a landline robopoll muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #3
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. I'd rather us take the polling serious and work to change it instead
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:13 PM
Sep 2015

Of what we did in 2014 and scoffed at them which turned out true. What's wrong with acting like they are right and working towards making them wrong?

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
2. "Id rather us take the polling serious and work to change it..."?
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:27 PM
Sep 2015

Did you take the time to read the entire article?

This is not about ignoring or "scoffing" at polls, this is about ONE very flawed poll.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
3. Their point about 62% of the poll being people who answered a landline robopoll
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 05:34 PM
Sep 2015

seems very relevant. I do have a landline, and I don't have caller ID, so I normally answer the ladnline, but the moment it's clear it's a recorder message I hang up. But I am OK with taking internet polls (because YouGov pays you a tiny amount for your time, and you can choose when you do them). I have once or twice done a phone poll talking to a real person.

I think the number of people who will answer a robopoll is pretty small, and should not form the majority of a poll. They are not typical people.

Comparison poll from late August:

Quinnipiac University released a national poll Thursday showing that while Trump is leading the Republican Party nationally, he is polling poorly with black Americans in the general election.

When asked "If the election for President were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Clinton the Democrat and Donald Trump the Republican, for whom would you vote?" 3% percent said they'd vote for Trump.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-african-american-polls/

It seem extremely unlikely that he could have surged that much in so short a time with a demographic who have every reason to mistrust him.
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