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Police Murdered Native American Man, New Video Proves They Lied To Cover It Up
is dying words were whats wrong with you guys? Thomas Morado was an eye-witness to the police execution of Paul Castaway, 35-year-old full-blooded rosebud Native American man.
Police initially tried to cover their tracks, saying that Castaway had stabbed his mother, and charged at officers with a knife.
He didnt stab me in the neck. He was drunk, Lynn Eagle Feather explained.
I told the cops he was mentally ill. He was schizophrenic. I called for help. I didnt call for them to kill him, Pauls mother added.
Now couple her testimony that says the cops lied and she was never stabbed with the fact that she was never medically treated for a stab wound.
Now heres the real game-changer: there is s surveillance video that shows the police were lying through their teeth. The only thing is, the manager of Capital City mobile home park has the video, but he said he is only letting media and family watch it, though police say he made them a copy that is part of an on-going investigation.
Now that video has been released. Take a look and see for yourself: the police executed Paul Castaway.
He doesnt trust the police enough to turn it over to them, as he knows it will somehow conveniently disappear if he gives it to them.
Those who have seen it say that it shows Paul Castaway, 35, coming up from behind a white mobile home, through a black iron fence onto the street and around a wooden fence, which is a dead end, according to local Fox 31 Denver.
The officer shoots Paul, on the video, while Castaway has only threatened himself. No police, no family, no anyone else was threatened besides himself.
The police lied. They lied to cover up an execution.
We will miss him. Well miss him, Castaways cousin, Thomas Morado said.
His family gathered at the spot where Paul was murdered, to pay their respects and burn white sage to send him off in a traditional manner.
He was probably trying to figure out a place to run. And they didnt let him go. They trapped him like a mouse and they killed him, Rick Morado, Pauls cousin said.
Denver police claimed Castaway charged two officers with a knife, and they had no choice but to shoot him. We now know that is a lie.
Next thing, we heard three shots. I walked outside and I saw two officers handcuffing a man, a neighbor, Irvin told local reporters.
WARNING!!!!
GRAPHIC VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=46&v=-xDJSuJjdhk
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/09/paul-castaway-video/
malaise
(269,067 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)He does come at the officers, walking toward them after they have guns drawn and are ordering him to stop, with a knife in his hand.
Yes, he had the knife to his throat- that doesn't matter. You can go from knife at throat to stabbing someone else in a faction of a second. So while some will claim that meant he was harmless they are just showing their ignorance and naivety.
It was clearly an intent of suicide by cop- and sadly when you come at an officer who is ordering you to stop and you have a knife in hand the officer- or anyone else in this world- has to assume in your irrational state you will harm them.
This is another case of a family calling the cops to handle a mental illness problem they and the mental health treatment system failed to manage and let get out of hand, then placing all the blame on the cops who were put in a no-win situation cleaning up everyone else's failures to manage the system.
Were I still on the job and had someone walking at my like that, knife in hand, ignoring orders to stop even after my gun was out I would have shot them at that point too. And guess what- as a private citizen in the same circumstance I also would, and it would still be a justified self defense shooting.
Don't like it? Don't come at people with knives, and fix the mental health system so that people don't get stuck dealing with this kind of stuff in the streets with milliseconds to react.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)retreats and, if he has a knife in his hand, then officer has no choice but to fire. If he retreats without looking back he is in danger of backing up into the trailer. I think the other officer was going for his taser (or had his taser out and was switching to his gun). The officer cannot let the man get within striking range with the knife.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Since their description of the events and what is actually on the video are nowhere near close
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)You yourself watched it and said he 'walked toward them'.
What's your definition of a lie, because it sure sounds like police lied there to me?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)If his thoughts were disorganized, he simply might not have connected walking towards them with the knife at his own throat with getting shot by them.
So no, it was not 'clearly an intent of suicide by cop'. It was a mentally ill person who needed help, not murdered.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)You go with what's presented in front of you.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'm sorry but I simply can't get behind your attitude that cops should just be allowed to murder citizens, and then claim they were 'afraid'. Get another goddamn job if you're so scared all the time.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Split seconds is all you have.
It's clear you've never been in a situation where immediate action and decisions were required- it's far different from sitting safely behind your keyboard pontificating from a position of safety.
We can't all live in your fantasy world where cops or anyone else can call "time out" to think when someone comes at them with a weapon.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I take it you've been stabbed many times?
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)But none succeeded, so I guess my split second decision making is a bit better than yours.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)In those I'm familiar with, containment and patiently defusing the situation is the favoured option. It takes time and the right resources and motivation of course.
Where force is required, non-lethal means are used.
Death by police is extremely rare.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)And people who are a danger to themselves or others are generally not on the street, and when they are and have a crisis they have mental health teams on call instead of handing it off to cops.
FWIW a call for a man with a knife would get an armed response in any of those countries.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:51 PM - Edit history (4)
Inevitably people slip through the cracks or drop out of the system or eschew their meds or opt to self-medicate with drink and drugs or simply remain undiagnosed. Many of those that do are prone to crisis and many of them are on the street, mostly in our cities but there are examples in every community. Whether on the streets or at home, some sufferers, at times, pose a danger to themselves or others.
As in the US, it happens and it's something our police have to deal with on a regular basis. They are usually first to the scene and, very often, a police cell is the initial "place of safety" for the sufferer pending a hospital place.
However, unlike in the US, death by police in the UK is very rare.
N.B. Here in the UK, the Crisis Care Concordat scheme, whereby incidents are dealt with by a joint police and mental health team, was only introduced in 2014 and has yet to be rolled out beyond the trial areas. It's a promising initiative but it's too new to be relevant in this context
Rex
(65,616 posts)As we see here. OF COURSE they covered up a murder and the cop apologists have already justified his death. Thank GOD none of them are cops, that would be a sad day for America.
Snobblevitch
(1,958 posts)That is the name of the reservation, not the people who love there. They are Lakota. (ai had a co-worker who grew up on the Rosebud reservation. He had a B.S. in English and was a good family man. He left the Rosebud at age 15 and went to a Catholic boarding school and said he never looked back.