I am SO digging this Pope..... update! Oh hell no Frankie!

[ronnykmarshall]

Last edited Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:25 PM - Edit history (1)

After the whole Kim Davis visit ..... I take back what I said below.





I'm not Catholic, I really don't consider myself part of any religion .... I have a Crucifix, Star of David and an Ommmmmm charm on my review mirror in my car. But I'm loving ol' Frankie. I saw JP2 in SF in 1987 and I liked him. Could not STAND ol Bennie 16. What an asshole! When this pope took the name of Francis aka Francisco .... I knew this guy was going to shake up the shirt.

Go Frankie!


He should have said THIS to that hog

[pnwmom]

1. It is a relief for many progressive Catholics to finally have a Pope standing up

for the religious values we grew up with in the post-Vatican 2 era.

This is the Church we remember.

[ronnykmarshall]

2. That's for sure

He's great.

[ribrepin]

22. Yes

[Codeine]

3. Hooray for being slightly less bigoted than the last guy.

Slightly.

DU needs to stop slobbering all over this old bastard already.

[pnwmom]

4. Hooray for you for being slightly less anti-Catholic than some around here.

Very slightly.

[ronnykmarshall]

6. SNAP!

[kfreed]

33. DU needs stop looking a gift horse in the mouth

For how may years now have we been telling the "good Christians" to speak up against the people who mistook Jesus for Ayn Rand?

So along comes a Catholic Pope and speaks up.

Jerks: "Bastard!"

Along comes Rev. William Barber of the NAACP:

"When you check their voting records, the same people who are fighting environmental justice are fighting public education. The same people who are fighting public education are fighting Medicaid expansion. The same people fighting Medicaid expansion are fighting women’s health. The people fighting the women’s health are fighting against the LGBT community. The same people fighting the LGBT community are fighting the labor rights community. So, if they are cynical enough to be together we ought to be courageous and smart enough to come together. [applause]…"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/29/1425693/-Reverend-Barber-suggests-Daily-Kos-team-up-with-Moral-Monday-Movement-and-go-national

Jerks: "tl:dr"

Along Comes Faithful America

Jerks: "Who?"

Along comes Nuns on the Bus

Jerks: ::yawn::

Get over yourself. The rest of us welcome the backup.

You know what DU could use a whole lot less of? LIBERTARIANS.

[Glassunion]

5. Jesus

To me Jesus, and his teachings should be at the root of a Christian organization. Jesus was a progressive person, especially for his time.

[RKP5637]

26. Yes, he was, and that has fallen out of the equation. Far too many in the RW think he was like them.

What they don't get, is THEY are the ones he was concerned about. They warp religion to suite their needs and then say god and Jesus said it's OK. They are a disgusting lot.

[ronnykmarshall]

7. Love this ....

[url=https://flic.kr/p/ySrqdG][img][/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/ySrqdG]pope car[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/131813008@N02/]Ronny Marshall-Selby[/url], on Flickr

[RKP5637]

28. Exactly!!!

[Stinky The Clown]

8. Careful. There are a few haters who will be on you like stink on shit.

[ronnykmarshall]

9. OK ..... I have change my mind

After hearing that he met with the HOG Kim Davis .... ol' Frankie can kiss my ENTIRE ass!

Hell I WAS so impressed with him I was ready to go to confession. Well I got a confession now to him: You an asshole!

[PeaceNikki]

10. .

I adore you, rkm.

[ronnykmarshall]

11. You too ....

[PeaceNikki]

16. The point of all credibility being lost on me was when he said gays raising children is child abuse.

I pictured the gay people I know who are raising kids. I saw their faces when he said that and I do every time it comes up. It makes me seethe with rage that anyone would say such a horrific thing about people I love dearly based entirely on their sexual orientation. Just awful.

[Codeine]

21. Totally -- the level of cognitive dissonance inherent in the head of the RCC

accusing ANYONE else of child abuse is just off the goddamned charts.

[RKP5637]

29. It's all Psychological Projection with the RCC. I heard so many stories in my youth and

I have no doubt many were true.

[Bluenorthwest]

12. I am very glad to read this update....

nt

[Codeine]

17. He was an asshole long before that.

Oh wait; I'm "anti-catholic".

[kfreed]

34. Pope Franics did NOT "meet with" Kim Davis in secret or otherwise... she was a face in the crowd

This is how quick you all are to throw allies under the bus (a little RW propaganda goes a long way around here):

Faithful America: (The Christian Left)

"After days of speculation, the truth has finally come out: Pope Francis did not hold a private meeting to express his support for Kim Davis's efforts to block gay marriage licenses.

According to an official Vatican statement, Kim Davis was among "several dozen persons" attending a reception at the Vatican embassy, "the pope did not enter into the details of the situation," and "his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support."

Moreover, it seems that the pope did not request Kim Davis be invited.

According to press reports, one man was likely responsible for Davis's invitation: Carlo Maria Vigano, a conservative church official who was appointed by Pope Benedict as Vatican ambassador to the United States (formally called the "apostolic nuncio&quot .

Having created an opportunity for right-wing evangelicals to dishonestly hijack the message of the pope's visit to the United States, Vigano must now resign.

Tell Vatican ambassador: Letting Kim Davis hijack the pope's visit was wrong. Resign for the good of the church.

Many of us were upset and confused when the news broke that Pope Francis had met with Kim Davis -- especially given how she and her lawyers misrepresented what actually happened at the Vatican embassy.

While Pope Francis has continued to promote conservative teachings on marriage and family, he has also advocated for a more compassionate and welcoming church that advocates for the poor and socially marginalized.

But the Catholic Church is a complex and global institution, and not all decisions are made by the pope. Pope Francis has replaced a number of conservative officials -- many of them American -- who have undermined his leadership and vision for the church, but it wouldn't be reasonable for him to remove everyone appointed by previous popes.

Carlo Maria Vigano was appointed apostolic nuncio by Pope Benedict, and there have been indications before that he and Pope Francis are not on the same page. For example, earlier this year Francis forced Kansas City Bishop Robert Finn to resign after Finn was convicted of covering up clergy sexual abuse. Despite this, Vigano allowed Finn to continue ordaining priests until a new bishop was appointed.

Vigano was almost certainly involved in inviting Kim Davis to the Vatican embassy reception where she met with Pope Francis, and he may even have acted alone. Either way, he has no business continuing to serve as Francis's official representative to the United States.

Tell Vatican ambassador to resign."

Their petition: http://act.faithfulamerica.org/sign/vigano/?t=2&akid=719.120957.a1Wj7w

They've already surpassed their goal of 15,000 signatures.

***Meanwhile, along come a bunch of far right Libertarians and say, "Hey DU, won't you get behind a white supremacist, religious fundamentalist Tea Party douche who is to "the left" of Obama and you all say, "Yeah, mang! Dude's got pot!"

Yeah you did. And yeah, he's a white supremacist bearing tales of Jewish banksters controlling the world and starting all the wars all the time against Hilter: http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/dark-side-of-paul-phenomenon.html

[bullwinkle428]

13. K&R for your update, Ronny!

[beam me up scottie]

15. Don't feel too bad, he had professional help creating the image of a progressive pope:

Fox News Reporter Hired as Vatican Media Adviser
By RACHEL DONADIO JUNE 24, 2012

ROME — In an effort to shore up its communications strategy amid a widening leaks scandal in a troubled papacy, the Vatican has hired the Fox News correspondent in Rome as a senior communications adviser.

The correspondent, Greg Burke, 52, who has covered the Vatican for Fox since 2001, will leave the network to help improve and coordinate the Vatican’s various communications operations, Mr. Burke and the Vatican spokesman said.

In a telephone interview on Sunday, Mr. Burke, the Vatican’s first communications expert hired from outside the insular world of the Roman Catholic news media, said that he would not replace the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, but would advise officials on how to shape their message. He said he had turned down the Vatican twice in the past month before accepting the paid position. He will answer directly to officials in the Secretariat of State, the Vatican’s executive branch.

“If you look at what the White House has, everyone knows who the spokesman is, no one knows who the secretary of communications is,” Mr. Burke said. “It’s a very similar job. It’s a strategy job. It’s very simple to explain, not so easy to execute: to formulate the message and try to make sure everyone remains on message.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/world/europe/vatican-hires-fox-news-correspondent-as-media-adviser.html

[MainSt99]

18. Pope Francis is a Bright Spot in a Gloomy World.

I'm not a member of any organized religion. But Pope Francis is inspiring to me. While American fundamentalists embrace the concepts of Plutocracy and xenophobia, this pope, in the true legacy of Christ, is about raising up the poor and inclusiveness. He is an example of what Christian leaders should be about.

It might be too much to expect that his reign will influence politics much... Either here or abroad.

[Codeine]

20. He's the titular head of a global child abuse

network and a powerful cultural agent of regression.

The pope ain't a bright spot -- he's a fucking cancer, just like the fundies here and the mullahs in the Islamic world.

[RKP5637]

31. ... a powerful cultural agent of regression, oppression and persecution IMO. It's an old boys club!

George Carlin told it like it is! Damn, I miss him!

[gollygee]

19. I'll give a rec for the update

Underneath everything else, they're all anti-LGBT and anti-woman.

[RKP5637]

30. And all for persecution! n/t

[LostOne4Ever]

23. Rec for the update! nt

[herding cats]

24. Yep.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

No fault of yours for being confused by his message. It's what organized religion depends on to stay alive and they've become very, very good at managing their message over the years.

[ronnykmarshall]

25. Another update ..... the title of this cracks me up

http://www.joemygod.com/2015/10/02/vatican-observers-its-likely-that-the-pope-will-shitcan-the-guy-who-sprung-kim-davis-on-him/

[ronnykmarshall]

27. Update ---- Picture KKKim and Pope.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/zjUAq3][img][/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/zjUAq3]

[RKP5637]

32. Yep, now we've got the REAL picture!!! n/t

[MisterP]

35. ironically I was just watching the sequel: "The Ninth Configuration"