What the wingnuts said about TRUMP that they don't dare say about BONER

[UTUSN]

A wingnut conspiracy theory about TRUMP has been that he is a stalking horse for Hillary. Underlying that is a deeper objection they have: That he is not really a wingnut, has given (as much?) cash to Dems besides having harbored non-wingnut policies - not to mention that his flakiness does not make him an admirable spokesman (leaving aside that their world view is a nutcase one populated by nutcases).

A caller to (LIMBOsevic?) spelled it out most lucidly: That TRUMP is not really an ideological wingnut, not a Fundie wingnut. That he doesn't believe in ideological tenets, that he believes only in himself.


Stalking horse for Hillary. Stay wit me. Or bear wit me, as the choice might be.

So, in no way whatsoever would I imagine that BONER would be a stalking horse for Hillary (or whoever the Dem nominee is). But I submit that this might be an unintended effect of his quitting: We can agree that whoever replaces him will be horribly worse as a wingnut than him, no? Hence, it's a long 13 months until the election, time enough for the wingnuts to ram through nutcase things (at least in the House) but most of all for them to unleash torrents of their nutcase rhetoric.

And all of that will galvanize, not only the stalwart Dem vote, but also all of those who are THIS SIDE of nutcase. Hence, BONER's departure and replacement will have the *effect* of what Repukes fear TRUMP is, the effect of being a stalking horse for whoever the Dem nominee.

But to deliver the final tap of the hammer: They can't say this about BONER because to do so would be an admission that the country at large is repelled by their ideology. They *can* say it about TRUMP because they don't think he's really one of them.

[MohRokTah]

1. People keep looking for a bear in the forest, and they miss the unique tree right in front of them.

Boehner is leaving at the end of October. There are precisely two issues of matter in October, a clean continuing resolution and a clean debt ceiling bill. With the help of the Dems, Boehner will get both through the House, and the Senate will pass after much bluster from Cruz and at most 4 others.

There's your stalking horse.

The reason that's a stalking horse, you ask?

Both issues once again hit, in October of 2016. Now the wingnuts are in a conundrum. Either they don't shut it down and disallow a debt ceiling raise (at the same time I might add) pissing off their base, or the government shuts down as an economic calamity of epic proportions hits at the same time due to the idiocy of the Republicans in Congress, days before the 2016 election.

Boehner will be leaving with a ticking nuclear bomb set to go off a year after his departure, and it will be up to the Republicans in Congress to defuse the bomb or allow it to go off in their faces days before the people go to the polls.

Now think about that one for a minute or two.

[UTUSN]

2. So we agree about the *effect*. I don't imagine BONER wants to *help* the Dems win. n/t

[MohRokTah]

3. Boehner just wants to get out without a debacle being his fault.

Leaving the issue to the House GOP days before the 2016 election is probably the cherry on top for him. If the nuts take over like they want, and they shut it down days before the election, I suspect he won't cry for once. He's leaving them with the explicit problems he faced for four years, and is letting them figure it out.

Although I'm sure he wants somebody sane to pick up the gavel, I wouldn't be surprised if deep down he really WANTED the baggers to set off a nuclear bomb in their own faces days before the election.

[UTUSN]

4. "just wants to get out" - yip, but also his own personal debacle of being tossed himself.

There has been a tide here giving him credit for a conscience, being motivated by the Pope, blah blah. If he had a conscience he wouldn't be a Repuke to start with.

As for his wanting some revenge on his own wingnuts, maybe there is a very personal little satisfaction, but surely not bigger than his overall partisan side's losing.

[MohRokTah]

5. I can agree with that.

Two debacles are avoided. He left of his own accord, eliminating an embarrassing floor vote that goes to ultiple ballots because of intransigent baggers, and he avoids being responsible for a government shtdown and the loss of the full faith and credit of the United States.

It's all personal for him. He would probably look at the loss of the majority as collateral damage in bringing down the intransigent baggers.

[UTUSN]

6. Say it, say it LOUD: Wingnuts in charge = country *repelled* = Dems win!1 n/t

[Octafish]

7. It's a great time to be a Democrat.

Let's see the Party Leadership make hay while the sun shines on the GOP idiocy.

It's not everyday the freaking media make it as clear as the Gulf of Mexico used to be.