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Republican Barry Goldwater: "Mark my word,...." (Original Post) kpete Sep 2015 OP
And that time has come. leftofcool Sep 2015 #1
He really made quite a left turn towards the end of his life oberliner Sep 2015 #2
He was on "Larry King Live" and talked about SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #9
Goldwater loathed Nixon. hifiguy Sep 2015 #16
Hah! Rock salt! Hugin Sep 2015 #38
Loathed. That's the word. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #39
According to Woodward and Bernstein hifiguy Sep 2015 #41
"Richard Nixon hated Commies, lastlib Sep 2015 #47
Republicans dont really mention Goldwater much INdemo Sep 2015 #3
You mean "this tired old man that we elected king"? SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #10
+1 nomorenomore08 Sep 2015 #20
If Goldwater were alive today, the Republicans would call him a RINO. n/t radicalliberal Sep 2015 #4
If he were a Republican. n/t SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #13
I hadn't thought about that! ;) n/t radicalliberal Sep 2015 #34
"If" is the operative word. I believe Goldwater would be FUCKING APPALLED by what passes... Raster Sep 2015 #57
I was a Goldwater girl. juajen Sep 2015 #23
I was an eighth-grader in the fall of 1964. (Wow! What a long time ago that was! -- radicalliberal Sep 2015 #35
No shame, juajen. I was a Nixon girl SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #40
If Goldwater were alive today Hillary would be on his staff YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #42
I read somewhere that in '64 she was a Goldwater girl. radicalliberal Sep 2015 #61
Wow. zentrum Sep 2015 #5
This might interest/infuriate you ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2015 #52
Well I'm liberal but to a degree. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #6
Props. vanlassie Sep 2015 #7
Cheers! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #17
Still funny as hell, 50 years later. nomorenomore08 Sep 2015 #22
I kind of remember the days when republicans were not all deranged lunatics tabasco Sep 2015 #8
Let us not be revisionists. Goldwater was no Ike. The saying was, "In your heart, you know he's WinkyDink Sep 2015 #27
Revisionist? LOL. How about let's not be obtuse. tabasco Sep 2015 #30
I love that word Reter Sep 2015 #37
Oh, rly? I was paying attention in 1964: WinkyDink Sep 2015 #45
"In your heart, ... MgtPA Sep 2015 #54
I thought the Democratic response was: "In your guts, you know he's nuts." (eom) StevieM Sep 2015 #58
You ain't that damned old to remember the 1880s n/t Kennah Sep 2015 #56
I probably didn't agree with anything Goldwater was for but I always thought he was A Simple Game Sep 2015 #11
Neither are the Liberals...as far as I can see. nt clarice Sep 2015 #18
Many of the ones that call themselves liberals anyway. I haven't changed that much, A Simple Game Sep 2015 #25
They certainly wern't! juajen Sep 2015 #24
BG on abortion ErikJ Sep 2015 #12
".......Religion has no place in public policy" ErikJ Sep 2015 #14
K & R. Barry was foretelling about religion alright. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #15
Profound. SoapBox Sep 2015 #19
Remember... WiffenPoof Sep 2015 #21
Nobody remembers MFrohike Sep 2015 #33
It's all relative. Turbineguy Sep 2015 #48
That's depressing MFrohike Sep 2015 #59
no shit barry. your asshole party invited them in with open arms. spanone Sep 2015 #26
His dauther, CC is very cool. Kath1 Sep 2015 #28
Pretty sure you've got that backwards HuskyOffset Sep 2015 #50
Whoops! Kath1 Sep 2015 #60
As a WWII pilot he carried supplies to war zones frogmarch Sep 2015 #29
Wow, quite a story. Duppers Sep 2015 #43
Receiving a Goldwater Scholoarship frogmarch Sep 2015 #46
I imagine you have a story about how you met the nurses. Duppers Sep 2015 #62
He Did Move Left Steadily colsohlibgal Sep 2015 #31
They left him, not the other way around. hifiguy Sep 2015 #36
That is funny MFrohike Sep 2015 #32
But...but...AU H2O 64! pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #44
k and r...nt. Stuart G Sep 2015 #49
"Au H2O" I actually supported him in 1964. Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #51
As was Hillary. Duppers Sep 2015 #63
My parents were Arizonans. snort Sep 2015 #53
Today BlueinOhio Sep 2015 #55
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. He really made quite a left turn towards the end of his life
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:00 PM
Sep 2015

Other quotes:

When you say "radical right" today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.

The big thing is to make this country, along with every other country in the world with a few exceptions, quit discriminating against people just because they're gay. You don't have to agree with it, but they have a constitutional right to be gay. And that's what brings me into it.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
9. He was on "Larry King Live" and talked about
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:41 PM
Sep 2015

his love for Jimmy Carter and distaste for Nixon. He probably used a stronger word than distaste.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
16. Goldwater loathed Nixon.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

And he'd put some rock salt into the asses of Cruz, Huckster and Frothymix Santorum, you can bet on it.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
39. Loathed. That's the word.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:40 PM
Sep 2015

Wasn't he one of the Republicans who told Nixon he was about to be impeached?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
41. According to Woodward and Bernstein
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:19 AM
Sep 2015

it was Goldwater who personally told Nixon that he would certainly be impeached if he didn't resign and that Goldwater himself would probably vote with the majority.

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
47. "Richard Nixon hated Commies,
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 10:53 AM
Sep 2015

He hunted them all his life,
The only one he didn't catch
Was married to his wife!"

(Don't know the origin of that old verse--my brother quoted it frequently during the Watergate days.)

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
3. Republicans dont really mention Goldwater much
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Oh CNN tried to make him some sort of a Conservative God a few years ago that real conservatives should worship.
But instead they turned to the crook that fooled everyone and started this 1% take over of the World..He became their real God.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
57. "If" is the operative word. I believe Goldwater would be FUCKING APPALLED by what passes...
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:23 PM
Sep 2015

...for the GOP today, and would NOT be a party to the Party.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
23. I was a Goldwater girl.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:59 PM
Sep 2015

I still have my little elephant pin, but it is missing the little Goldwater black hornrimmed eyeglasses.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
35. I was an eighth-grader in the fall of 1964. (Wow! What a long time ago that was! --
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:44 PM
Sep 2015

-- Certainly a political eternity.) I was ignorant about politics. We lived in the Spring Branch/Memorial area of Houston, TX. Extremely RW then and now. As far as I know, my parents were the only ones in the neighborhood who voted for LBJ.

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
61. I read somewhere that in '64 she was a Goldwater girl.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:04 PM
Sep 2015

By the way, I like your username. It's really funny. I'm so unimaginative about usernames, all I could come up with was "radicalliberal," an expression borrowed from Vice-President Spiro Agnew's speeches.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
5. Wow.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:25 PM
Sep 2015

And he was such a radical for his time.

If only LBJ hadn't been involved in cold-war thinking and hadn't pursued the Viet Nam war, we'd be in such better shape today. The Dems would have stayed in the WH with Humphrey after Johnson and very likely on and on. No Nixon for sure.

The war was the first huge blow to Democratic Party unity.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
6. Well I'm liberal but to a degree.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

Now, I'm liberal, but to a degree
I want everybody to be free
But if you think that I'll let Barry Goldwater
Move in next door and marry my daughter
You must think I'm crazy
I wouldn't let him do it for all the farms in Cuba

- Bob Dylan

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
8. I kind of remember the days when republicans were not all deranged lunatics
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:32 PM
Sep 2015

but it's been a long time ago.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
27. Let us not be revisionists. Goldwater was no Ike. The saying was, "In your heart, you know he's
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:41 PM
Sep 2015

right." To which Democrats added, "Yes----FAR Right."



 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
30. Revisionist? LOL. How about let's not be obtuse.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

Are you equating Goldwater to the republican kooks of today?

Not even close.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
37. I love that word
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:12 PM
Sep 2015

The only time I ever hear it is when watching Shawshank Redemption and on DU. Wonder if it's always the same person. Do you use it a lot here?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
45. Oh, rly? I was paying attention in 1964:
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:40 AM
Sep 2015

~~"Goldwater's suggestion that it was not beneficial for the United States to remain in the United Nations in the wake of its admittance of communist China...."

~~"Goldwater criticized President Johnson for his liberal policies and expansion of the federal government" (AKA< MEDICARE.)

~~"Goldwater also affirmed his support for increased military action in North Vietnam ...."

~~"Goldwater took a further hit after voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964,..."

~~"Goldwater called for substantial cuts in social programs, suggesting that Social Security become optional,
and suggested the use of nuclear weapons in Vietnam if necessary.[126] "

~~"Goldwater believed that the Tennessee Valley Authority should be sold into the private sector...."

~~"Goldwater strongly supported the 1980 presidential campaign of Reagan, ..."

So "LOL" all you want. Barry AuH2O became tolerable and indeed avuncular ONLY WHEN HE WAS REALLY, REALLY OLD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater_presidential_campaign,_1964

MgtPA

(1,022 posts)
54. "In your heart, ...
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

... you know he's a fart!"

~~chant heard on my elementary school bus, 6th grade.

Thanks for the memory!

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
11. I probably didn't agree with anything Goldwater was for but I always thought he was
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 04:43 PM
Sep 2015

a man of integrity and had good intentions for the Country. Republicans back in the '60s were not the same as the Republicans of today.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
25. Many of the ones that call themselves liberals anyway. I haven't changed that much,
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:35 PM
Sep 2015

if anything I am more socialist and libertarian than I was.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
21. Remember...
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 05:31 PM
Sep 2015

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."

Also remember LBJ's campaign commercial where a little girl is picking flowers as a countdown to a nuclear bomb blast is in the background?

Signs of the times.

Paige

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
33. Nobody remembers
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:41 PM
Sep 2015

Barry wanted to nuke the whole world. He was one of the most dangerous loons we've ever seen, so it's a bit mind-boggling to see him lionized for any reason.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
29. As a WWII pilot he carried supplies to war zones
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:57 PM
Sep 2015

and often flew to India, where I was born. He’d heard of the American soldier’s newborn baby girl whose mother had died soon after her birth and personally delivered baby bottles and canned milk to the hospital for me. He gave my 2 1/2 year-old sister a doll and other toys. Many years later, as an adult, I wrote to Sen. Goldwater and thanked him. He wrote back, saying he remembered my sister and me and my dad and was delighted to have received my letter. He also told me I was welcome.

Thanks for posting the Goldwater quotes, kpete. Now I like him even more.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
43. Wow, quite a story.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:53 AM
Sep 2015

Thanks for sharing.





My much smaller piece of connection to the late senator (very trivial compared to yours) -- my son was awarded a Goldwater Scholarship in 07.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
46. Receiving a Goldwater Scholoarship
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:32 AM
Sep 2015

is quite an honor, Duppers. Congratulations to your son!

When I was 23, I met two of the Army nurses who helped take care of my mother and me. One of the nurses, the one I was named after, described Barry Goldwater as having been "a hotshot young pilot." The other nurse added, "He was a dashing hotshot young pilot." Then they looked at each other and smiled.

I realize he was a republican, but I forgive him. Anyway, he wasn't like most of them are today.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
62. I imagine you have a story about how you met the nurses.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 04:59 AM
Sep 2015

I love interesting stories.

I found a pic of Goldwater as a young pilot in 1941...so, I'd say the nurses were right.
http://www.roguecolumnist.com/.a/6a00e54fdb30b988340192aabb85ee970d-800wi




Thanks for the compliment. As you know the Scholarship is based entirely on merit and not on any essay on Goldwater or how he should be admired. Just thought I'd throw that in in case anyone had the wrong impression.

Btw, my son is defending his PhD thesis in theoretical particle physics Oct. 23!! I'm so proud of him!



colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
31. He Did Move Left Steadily
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

Mostly with social issues but not entirely. Also, he had no use for the new brand of republicans, he considered them stubborn, egotistical, bull headed, and dead wrong about many things.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
36. They left him, not the other way around.
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:03 PM
Sep 2015

And he had much saltier quotes than the one in the OP about reichwing preachers.

MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
32. That is funny
Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:39 PM
Sep 2015

Everybody remembers the Goldwater who knocked the religious right and nobody remembers the Goldwater who suggested lobbing a bomb into the window of the Kremlin. He was just as loony as any of them. There's a reason Barry got demolished in 1964, even with two separate scandals ongoing for Johnson, and it sure as hell wasn't an accident.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
51. "Au H2O" I actually supported him in 1964.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:14 PM
Sep 2015

My excuse is that I was young and impressionable, and not very smart about politics at the time.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
63. As was Hillary.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:09 AM
Sep 2015

I'm not supporting her candidacy, however; I just don't believe in throwing her young and impressionable support for the Senator into the reasons.

Go Bernie!

snort

(2,334 posts)
53. My parents were Arizonans.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:31 PM
Sep 2015

Dad was a military officer in '64. He was 'their guy' but he sure wasn't their kind of politician. They voted for LBJ.

BlueinOhio

(238 posts)
55. Today
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:50 PM
Sep 2015

On Face the Nation today John Boehner trashed the far right ans "false prophets". I think they are to far gone. Boehner talked about making a deal with Obama that would have been good for the whole country and the far right will not compromise.

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