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The Soviets had a wonderful term for it: being retired, a convenient way to remove not-so-convenient people. John Boehner was standing in the way of the tea party's plan to impeach Barack Obama while he's still president and to impeach Hillary Clinton before the primaries start. Since no one can ever tell the tea party 'no,' he had to be removed. And they did it the same way they got rid of Nixon: they gave him the choice of ending his political career or having it ended for him. Any long-term politician has enough skeletons in his or her closet to start a medical school, so it wouldn't be hard to find SOMETHING bad enough to land him in the Stripey Hole until Pall Malls are no longer being made.
Make no mistake, my friends: John Boehner didn't "retire," he was overthrown in a palace coup.
Now they have to replace him. My feeling is the next speaker will...
be a teabagger; there is no way the 'baggers would run off an establishment speaker then allow another one to take his place
who isn't in a leadership slot
or on one of the nine Special Committees to Hang an Impeachment-Worthy Millstone Around Obama's Neck
and who isn't super well known - ESPECIALLY for their blatant stupidity.
This means both Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise are right out. As are any of the committee chairs. And Trey "Torquemada" Gowdy. And most important, Blake Farenthold, Louie Gohmert and Mark Sanford will never soil the speaker's gavel.
My prediction: Raul Labrador, Idaho's gift to America.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Who, idk.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)jmowreader
(50,560 posts)The best part: Labrador is totally on board with packing every illegal immigrant in one truck and hauling them straight back to Mexico...but he spent many years before being elected to Congress trying to keep dairy farmers' illegal-immigrant employees from being deported.
spanone
(135,846 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Teaparty speaker.
It is not in the interest of Democrats or the country to give the house to the Teaparty caucaus.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Being that the GOP holds the House majority, they can get a tea party speaker in one of two ways: by voting as a bloc for the TP speaker hence overriding any dissenting votes from the "other" side, or hoping the entire Democratic caucus walks out in disgust, which gives them a chance to unanimously assent to the worthless fuck.
It is NOT in the interest of the country to give the House to the tea party, which is why they'll do it.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I will be surprised if ggey get their way.
former9thward
(32,028 posts)The Republicans will have an internal fight and the winner will get every Republican vote.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Yes, the GOP caucus are the only people who vote for majority leader and majority Whip.
The Speaker of the House is elected by a vote of the ENTIRE Congress. That means Democrats and Republicans. It takes 50% + 1 to win.
The extremist baggers have the votes to keep Boehner from reaching that number, but no way can they get the votes to elect one of their dumbass choices. If they are persistent, the GOP leadership will cut a deal with Pelosi to g e the minority more power, then these assholes get frozen out completely. NO committee assignments that mean a damn and definitely NO chairmanships on any committee.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)former9thward
(32,028 posts)There will be no deal with Pelosi. If something like that happened that Speaker would be in more trouble than Boehner was. The Republicans will unite.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)The majority of the GOP Caucus is not going to hand the gavel to an absolute nutball.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)
(I don't want to use the surname FARENTHOLD by itself in respect to his grandmother Sissy FARENTHOLD who is a Democrat and ran for governor in Texas.)
That's Blake in the rubber ducky p. j.(s):
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)You had to send them? couldn't just describe them???
didn't know enough bad words or what?
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Blake's alter ego
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)they may not succeed. Doesn't the Senate have to vote on the House's impeachment and find him guilty?
And if so, they can kiss the next election good-bye. Independents, Democrats (3rd way & Progressive will be united), and some sane Republicans will not vote for a teaparty win in 2016, 2018 midterms) and 2020.............
This is where Obama's favorability with the young will come thru for him...
I posted an appreciation thread for John Boehner. Got mostly "hell no's," but when the stuff happens that you post, they'll start to appreciate him and wish he were back. I even think he was forced to write to Netanyahu to invite him to the Congress without asking/advising Obama.
All Republicans are not batshit crazy. Odd and weird maybe, hardheaded, but not totally nuts.
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world wide wally
(21,744 posts)"All Republicans are not batshit crazy"
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)Didn't know they were all pals of yours..
I myself don't know any that are not, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any. Not an expert.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)and not letting anyone get elected to that position. If there are 48 teabaggers voting against any republican establishment party plus 188 democrats, then what happens. This go around and around, until the teabaggers get their way or the main-stream repukes finally try and make a deal with the democrats. A deal could include giving the democrats certain committee chairmanships, etc.