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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:07 PM Sep 2015

Dick Cheney Blames Bill Clinton For 9/11

Cavuto did bring up the Bush administration’s failure to prevent 9/11. “Jeb Bush has said his brother kept us safe. Democrats quickly countered and said that '9/11 occurred under your brother’s watch.' …What do you think of that?” Cavuto asked.

Cheney had the nerve to deny it and then blame the Clinton administration. “No, it’s not true,” he said. “Anybody who’s spent time there or who was there or who was involved in the history and looked carefully at it – the situation we’d inherited from the Clinton administration was, there hadn’t been any effective response, really, to the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole the year before.”

As Think Progress reported in 2009 http://thinkprogress.org/security/2009/06/01/43295/cheney-blames-clarke/

Cheney has previously tried to duck responsibility for 9/11 by blaming Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism chief under Presidents Clinton and Bush. But, as Think Progress also revealed, Clarke repeatedly warned the Bush administration about the threat from Al Qaeda and presented an extensive plan to “roll back” the organization. All of which were ignored by the Bush/Cheney administration.


Not surprisingly, Cavuto never mentioned any of that, either.

http://www.newshounds.us/dick_cheney_blames_bill_clinton_for_9_11_and_still_wants_war_with_iran_092515
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Dick Cheney Blames Bill Clinton For 9/11 (Original Post) kpete Sep 2015 OP
NORAD enid602 Sep 2015 #1
Richard Clarke tried and tried to warn Condi et al about al Qaeda MiniMe Sep 2015 #2
I believe that was in July in 2001. She wouldn't see them. kairos12 Sep 2015 #13
Something like that MiniMe Sep 2015 #16
and what prevented an "effective response" to the bombing of the cole under shrub/cheney?? unblock Sep 2015 #3
Speaking of attacks on the U.S., has anyone asked Cheney about his prediction tha we would be Kyblue1 Sep 2015 #4
He can lie all the rest of his probably short lifespan, it doesn't matter. History books will show Rex Sep 2015 #5
Please stop holding back. Feel free to tell us how you really feel. merrily Sep 2015 #6
Hi merrily good to see you too! Rex Sep 2015 #7
Maybe I can guess--but I won't. I don't want a vacation just for reading your mind. merrily Sep 2015 #8
Hehe...I think you can guess well my friend. Rex Sep 2015 #9
That's why he was able to testify under oath not. Octafish Sep 2015 #10
"No effective response to the Cole bombing"? JHB Sep 2015 #11
It was a set-up "question" by Cavuto, who is total slime. Boomerproud Sep 2015 #12
FUDC! eppur_se_muova Sep 2015 #14
If Cheney had been Captain of the Titanic he would have blamed the sinking kairos12 Sep 2015 #15
But of course Shankapotomus Sep 2015 #17
bwahahahahahaaaa.... guess he went into comedy when the nation chose to ignore him spanone Sep 2015 #18
There was a 9/11? I thought Bush and Cheney kept America safe malaise Sep 2015 #19

enid602

(8,620 posts)
1. NORAD
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:14 PM
Sep 2015

Is that why Cheney authorized war games for NORAD on 9/11/01? To permit these attacks orchestrated by Clinton?

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
2. Richard Clarke tried and tried to warn Condi et al about al Qaeda
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:21 PM
Sep 2015

But they didn't want to listen. They totally shut him down and pushed him out of the loop.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
16. Something like that
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:50 PM
Sep 2015

I read Clarke's book, which was excellent. He kept trying to tell them they needed to look at it, and they kept blowing him off.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
3. and what prevented an "effective response" to the bombing of the cole under shrub/cheney??
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:30 PM
Sep 2015

even assuming his argument had any validity (that al qaeda only did 9/11 because they thought they could get away with it because there was no "effective response" from the cole bombing), what on earth was stopping shrub/cheney from taking what they thought was the appropriate actions immediately upon taking over the white house?

what, is three and a half months later "too late" or something?

cheney is the king of arguments that are compelling to no one other than the people already on his side.

Kyblue1

(216 posts)
4. Speaking of attacks on the U.S., has anyone asked Cheney about his prediction tha we would be
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:36 PM
Sep 2015

Attacked while Obama is in the Whitehouse. Time is running out on your wish Dickie. Interesting that he claims to be able to predict another attack, but couldn't take steps to prevent 9/11 when warned in advance.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. He can lie all the rest of his probably short lifespan, it doesn't matter. History books will show
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:41 PM
Sep 2015

and I am talking about the book around the world, will show him to be a lying warmonger that should be in prison for war crimes. SO DICK, all your blabbering means NOTHNG. The FACTS will be written about in books long after your foul ass is rotting in hell.

The name Cheney will be spit out like a curse word, you've ruined your entire families name over a few shiny objects.

Way to go you worthless sack of shit! Keep it up!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. Please stop holding back. Feel free to tell us how you really feel.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:39 PM
Sep 2015

Always nice to see you, Rex.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Hi merrily good to see you too!
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:43 PM
Sep 2015

I am holding back. I don't want to get a visit for typing what I really think should happen to Dickwit.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Hehe...I think you can guess well my friend.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015

Same should happen to all the BFEE...tar and feathers might not be enough this time.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. That's why he was able to testify under oath not.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:59 PM
Sep 2015

Why wasn't a special prosecutor appointed to investigate all the stuff Sneer and Smirk didn't want to talk about, even when not under oath?

JHB

(37,160 posts)
11. "No effective response to the Cole bombing"?
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:23 PM
Sep 2015

The Cole was bombed in mid-October 2000.

Evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement was inconclusive for months after the attack. The staff of the 9/11 Commission found that al-Qaeda's direction of the bombing was under investigation but "increasingly clear" on 11 November 2000. It was an "unproven assumption" in late November. By 21 December the CIA had made a "preliminary judgment" that "al Qaeda appeared to have supported the attack" without a "definitive conclusion".[40]

Accounts thereafter are varied and somewhat contradictory. Then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice told the Commission that when the administration took office on 20 January 2001, "We knew that there was speculation that the 2000 Cole attack was al Qaeda...We received, I think, on January 25 the same assessment [of al-Qaeda responsibility]. It was preliminary. It was not clear."

The Washington Post reported that, on 9 February, Vice President Dick Cheney was briefed on bin Laden's responsibility "without hedge."[41]

Newsweek reported that on the following day, "six days after Bush took office", the FBI "believed they had clear evidence tying the bombers to Al Qaeda".[42]

These conclusions are contrasted by testimony of key figures before the 9/11 Commission, summarized in the 9/11 Commission Report. Former CIA Director George Tenet testified (page 196) that he "believed he laid out what was knowable early in the investigation, and that this evidence never really changed until after 9/11."[43] The report suggests (pages 201–202) that the official assessment was similarly vague until at least March 2001:

On January 25, Tenet briefed the President on the Cole investigation. The written briefing repeated for top officials of the new administration what the CIA had told the Clinton White House in November. This included the "preliminary judgment" that al Qaeda was responsible, with the caveat that no evidence had yet been found that Bin Ladin himself ordered the attack... in March 2001, the CIA's briefing slides for Rice were still describing the CIA's "preliminary judgment" that a "strong circumstantial case" could be made against al Qaeda but noting that the CIA continued to lack "conclusive information on external command and control" of the attack.[43]


According to Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush's. She said he "made clear to us that he did not want to respond to al Qaeda one attack at a time. He told me he was 'tired of swatting flies.'" The administration instead began work on a new strategy to eliminate al-Qaeda.[44]


So "respond to who", Dick? What target?

If I recall correctly, at the time the neocon's favored response was "bomb Saddam". Of course, that was their favored response to everything.

If you thought Clinton's response over the 3 1/2 months he was still in office was inadequate, why didn't you do anything in the 9 months you had before 9/11?

Hell, Clinton can at least point to Somalia and Mogadishu as an example of what can happen when an outgoing administration saddles an incoming one with an iffy commitment at the last minute as a reason why they left taking action to Bush & Cheney. Who did nothing.

The lack of response is yours, Dick.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
12. It was a set-up "question" by Cavuto, who is total slime.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

I bet he was nodding his head and smiling the whole time Dick was answering. I won't be going to look at the video to have my point proven. I can't take this anymore.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
15. If Cheney had been Captain of the Titanic he would have blamed the sinking
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:42 PM
Sep 2015

on the passengers in steerage. They didn't evacuate fast enough to not existent life boats.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
17. But of course
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

The Obama/Biden administration can't blame the Bush/Cheney administration for the economy or Iraq.

spanone

(135,832 posts)
18. bwahahahahahaaaa.... guess he went into comedy when the nation chose to ignore him
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:10 PM
Sep 2015

fuck you dick!!!!

malaise

(268,999 posts)
19. There was a 9/11? I thought Bush and Cheney kept America safe
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:14 PM
Sep 2015

Do the planet a favor and croak you war criminal of a dick

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