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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:14 PM Oct 2015

County sheriff in charge of response to Roseburg college killings: ‘Gun control is NOT the answer’

Praising FBI today, sheriff once threatened to block federal agents from enforcing federal law

...Two years ago, though, Hanlin was among a group of Oregon sheriffs decrying efforts made by the Obama administration after the massacre at a Connecticut elementary school.

In a letter penned to Vice President Joe Biden on Jan. 15, 2013, Hanlin issued a “formal request that you NOT tamper with or attempt to amend the 2nd Amendment.”

“Gun control is NOT the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings,” Hanlin wrote. “Any actions against, or in disregard for our U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights by the current administration would be irresponsible and an indisputable insult to the American people.”

Praising federal law enforcement Thursday for the help his office received, Hanlin two years ago pledged to refuse to enforce any federal gun laws he believed ran counter to the Second Amendment.

“Any federal regulation enacted by Congress or by executive order of the President offending the Constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies, nor will I permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of Douglas County Oregon,” continued Hanlin, writing one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adult staff members at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

http://www.sfgate.com/local/article/County-sheriff-in-charge-of-response-to-Roseburg-6543830.php

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County sheriff in charge of response to Roseburg college killings: ‘Gun control is NOT the answer’ (Original Post) DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 OP
Hanlin and his ilk are insane, under some delusion they are law unto themselves...he still has the Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #1
never mind, i cant say anything, the teaparty is watching and threatening randys1 Oct 2015 #27
Some rinky-dink county sheriff's opinion is next to irrelevant. seaotter Oct 2015 #2
What about the dead? Lochloosa Oct 2015 #7
it sounds like he is related to Kim Davis Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #3
Uh, rural Kentucky and rural Oregon ... yeah, he probably is. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #21
Troglodytes should never wear a badge or own a gun, they make for shitty human substitutes. Rex Oct 2015 #4
Raised on Reagan. Octafish Oct 2015 #5
His mind may be more reachable after today--remains to be seen. nt DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #6
Hows that work if he was born in 1995? bettyellen Oct 2015 #9
Raised on Little Bush. Octafish Oct 2015 #10
you stand corrected. bettyellen Oct 2015 #11
I was thinking of the Sheriff. But yeah, the shooter, if born in 1995, should know better. Octafish Oct 2015 #14
You've been corrected! Rex Oct 2015 #16
Seriously wtf. yardwork Oct 2015 #42
FU and turn in your badge if you "pledged to refuse to enforce any federal gun laws " bettyellen Oct 2015 #8
He's right. Gun control is not the answer. Elimination of guns is the only answer. Wish Obama ha kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #12
And it is legal too, just READ the 2nd amendment. CLEARLY states guns and WELL REGULATED randys1 Oct 2015 #29
England? Has gun control done anything for England? Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #13
The gun-related death rate in the UK is . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #19
I wonder how the Aussies would handle it? LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #41
Well, will he get voted out of office? n2doc Oct 2015 #15
I'm not so sure........ Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #35
I disagree & so does OUR President: kpete Oct 2015 #17
correlation ? Angel Martin Oct 2015 #24
Yes, Oregon is a strong progressive state overall . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #18
well, fuck him. spanone Oct 2015 #20
Ok, tell him to turn in his bullet proof vest NightWatcher Oct 2015 #22
He must be a member of that crazy cult.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #23
He's right. SheilaT Oct 2015 #25
This is the state Representatives Jim Beard Oct 2015 #26
I know. WE NEED MOAR GUNZ!!! longship Oct 2015 #28
Here is another one of the wonderful state senator Jim Beard Oct 2015 #30
Oregon is considered a blue state passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #31
The gun nuts rockfordfile Oct 2015 #32
I asked my gun-loving neighbor Plucketeer Oct 2015 #33
At a minimum they need to immediately abolish open carry. jalan48 Oct 2015 #34
In other words he says "I love my gunz, I need my gunz, I can't live without my gunz". Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #36
Of course not workinclasszero Oct 2015 #37
Obviously we need more gun nuts to keep us safe from the gun nuts Major Nikon Oct 2015 #38
It seems to me that every rare time a law gets passed it promptly gets 'killed' Scalded Nun Oct 2015 #39
He sounds like a sovereign citizen. n/t haikugal Oct 2015 #40

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Hanlin and his ilk are insane, under some delusion they are law unto themselves...he still has the
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:18 PM
Oct 2015

job?

Why? He basically spat on his oath of Office, an Office that belongs to the People, not him, by refusing to obey the law he swore to uphold?!

 

seaotter

(576 posts)
2. Some rinky-dink county sheriff's opinion is next to irrelevant.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:19 PM
Oct 2015

Do his deputies agree? how about the dispatchers, janitors, local barrista?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Troglodytes should never wear a badge or own a gun, they make for shitty human substitutes.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 05:22 PM
Oct 2015

And they NEVER, EVER have a solution! EVER. They are kin to the GOP Congress that relies on people to forget events in the short term.

Since when is it a good idea to take a problem and add more problems to it as a solution? Never. Ever. Gun humpers are a throwback to another century and drag us all down with their antiquated views.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
14. I was thinking of the Sheriff. But yeah, the shooter, if born in 1995, should know better.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:08 PM
Oct 2015

If you want to go back when the Problem started, I'd say Nov. 22, 1963.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. You've been corrected!
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:15 PM
Oct 2015

You think they will finally give you a break now that they won whatever sad battle only they were fighting?

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
12. He's right. Gun control is not the answer. Elimination of guns is the only answer. Wish Obama ha
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:02 PM
Oct 2015

come after our guns like the wacko GOPers said he was going to do.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. And it is legal too, just READ the 2nd amendment. CLEARLY states guns and WELL REGULATED
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:10 PM
Oct 2015

militia, same thing.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
19. The gun-related death rate in the UK is . . .
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:49 PM
Oct 2015

. . . ONE FORTIETH of that of the United States.

Want me to say that more slowly?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
15. Well, will he get voted out of office?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:13 PM
Oct 2015

Undoubtedly not. He would not be there if not for the people who voted him in.

Until people get fed up with the Gun fetishists and vote them out nothing will change.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
35. I'm not so sure........
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:38 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe this event will wake up some of the people who have somewhat functioning brains and get rid of this dumb ass in the next election.

kpete

(72,010 posts)
17. I disagree & so does OUR President:
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:38 PM
Oct 2015
“we know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths.” – @BarackObama

:large

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
24. correlation ?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:02 PM
Oct 2015

according to Brady campaign, ten states with least gun laws:

(with rank on this table of murders in brackets, LA=#1)



WI(#44), ID(#47), KY(#24), LA(#1), MT(#40), ND(#45), OK(#13), AZ(#18), AK(#28), UT(#44)

of course DC is missing and it has plenty of gun laws, and gun murders.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
18. Yes, Oregon is a strong progressive state overall . . .
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:43 PM
Oct 2015

. . . but Douglas county is deep in ignorant rednecks. So I wonder if today's events will have the slightest affect on that sheriff.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
23. He must be a member of that crazy cult....
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:59 PM
Oct 2015

The one that believes sheriffs are the only legit authority.

Cliven Bundy believed that crap.

Someone needs to ask this sheriff what he thinks of "the negro".

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. Oregon is considered a blue state
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:24 PM
Oct 2015

But most of it is still red and full of gun nuts. It's a hunting state, like Vermont, but for some reason, it's not just hunting rifles that are protected by the gun nuts. So, I don't really think hunting has anything to do with it. It's just a gun fetish, so long ingrained into much of the population, it will take the feds removing guns to do anything about it.

Columbine was really the start of the recent trend in mass shootings. Before that most of the mass killings were done by older men who just couldn't handle failures or losses in their lives (maybe they were always mentally unstable, but life stresses drove them over the edge).

Now, since Columbine, it's mostly young men (and boys)...who haven't even had time to accrue a lifetime of losses or failures. It's our social environment that pushes young men who are having difficulty in life to go postal instead of just committing suicide like they most likely would have done before. And the notoriety...the fame from the media attention and the ability to plan and boast about it on-line before they ever even do anything. But also the availability of awesome nasty looking military style weaponry that allows them to go out like Rambo.

I really am at a loss at how to deal with this. Too many things need to change...the most important to me is in removing these kinds of weapons from the hands of civilians.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. I asked my gun-loving neighbor
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:30 PM
Oct 2015

about todays slaughter and what he thought might be done about it. Naturally, ARM all the faculty to afford students protection! RIGHT!

I can just see Rambo teachers and janitors whipping out their piece and taking a stance like some cop show clown. It's a CRAZY nation we got here - this one rife with the well disciplined militia.

jalan48

(13,880 posts)
34. At a minimum they need to immediately abolish open carry.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:36 PM
Oct 2015

Citizens need to know that if they see someone openly carrying a firearm in public it is illegal. Right now gun huggers can carry rifles into stores slung over their shoulder like modern John Wayne's. The average citizen has no defense until it too late, no way to know if the person carrying the gun is about to go on a rampage. Others laws can follow but this is a start.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
36. In other words he says "I love my gunz, I need my gunz, I can't live without my gunz".
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

lets face it folks, these people are gun addicts.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
37. Of course not
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

MOAR GUNZ is the only acceptable answer when some insane mass murderer takes out multiple victims.

Just ask the NRA.

GUNZ are good business don't you know? And that's all that matters in Amerika.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
39. It seems to me that every rare time a law gets passed it promptly gets 'killed'
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:47 PM
Oct 2015

What I would like to see is a sane SCOTUS reinterpret the 2nd amendment as pertaining to only those officially part of a federally a/o state sanctioned militia (Nat'l Guard).

There should be no problem passing laws once that happens.

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