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Archae

(46,354 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:19 PM Oct 2015

How many times can a person drive drunk? Too many here!

Don't forget, for every DUI arrest, a drunk usually has 3-5 times driving plowed, without being busted.

State Patrol: Wisconsin man arrested for 7th OWI

TOMAH, Wis. (AP) – The Wisconsin State Patrol says a New Lisbon man has been arrested on suspicion of his 7th OWI offense.

The 62-year-old man was arrested by the patrol’s Tomah Post early Sunday. The patrol says he was driving westbound on Interstate 90-94 when his vehicle left the road and went into the median shoulder. The driver overcorrected and lost control, rolling his vehicle into the ditch.

The patrol says the man was taken to a Mauston medical center with non-life-threatening injuries. He was arrested on suspicion of OWI.

http://wbay.com/2015/10/04/state-patrol-wisconsin-man-arrested-for-7th-owi/

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How many times can a person drive drunk? Too many here! (Original Post) Archae Oct 2015 OP
I think the Tavern League is still the elfin Oct 2015 #1
taverns in WI are interesting. People just come in and sit and drink... CTyankee Oct 2015 #16
It's a place for conversation, meeting people, and yes, drinking. Archae Oct 2015 #20
bruse rauner just upped the number in illinois. mopinko Oct 2015 #2
And here in Colorado, we now have a law making the 4th DUI a person gets a felony. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #3
It keeps the person off the street, until they get out. Archae Oct 2015 #4
Wow, that's an epic alkie. backscatter712 Oct 2015 #6
Encountered Colorado's weak DUI enforcement. Jake Stern Oct 2015 #5
I agree with the last sentence. Archae Oct 2015 #8
Glad they're okay. What did the guy from the Firm of Whiskee and Keyes get? Jake Stern Oct 2015 #9
No jail, unfortunately Archae Oct 2015 #12
I've read that if you go to trial, jurors seem to be incredibly sympathetic to the driver.... bettyellen Oct 2015 #10
How anyone can empathize with a drunk driver is beyond my comprehension nt. Jake Stern Oct 2015 #11
I have a hard time with it too, my two sister were killed by one just crossing the street. I wonder bettyellen Oct 2015 #13
It varies, from case to case. Archae Oct 2015 #14
agreed Skittles Oct 2015 #19
Not to dismiss DUI but I'd be happy if people could drive well while sober tech3149 Oct 2015 #7
Wish I could recommend your post KentuckyWoman Oct 2015 #22
Smart Cars can't get here soon enough NobodyHere Oct 2015 #15
Seven? That's bush league. Thor_MN Oct 2015 #17
In a rural area I would say thousands of times madville Oct 2015 #18
Hosea Williams claimed he was nabbed 25 times but never convicted. KentuckyWoman Oct 2015 #21
Here in NC, 2 will get you jail time. mmonk Oct 2015 #23

elfin

(6,262 posts)
1. I think the Tavern League is still the
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:28 PM
Oct 2015

strongest in-state lobby. Unbelievable clout. Amazing we have any drunk driving laws at all.

Home of rampant binge drinking. Have been afraid to drive at night for some time and now notice the DUI stops being made earlier and earlier in the day. Doesn't seem to stop them from doing it again and again and again even if they get jail time.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. taverns in WI are interesting. People just come in and sit and drink...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

hubby loves to go to one when we visit the summer place in Door County. The tavern is on a country road standing by itself and the farmers go there. I don't get it.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
20. It's a place for conversation, meeting people, and yes, drinking.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:13 AM
Oct 2015

There are a lot of bars like that not far from my Mom's place.

I saw opne town that was 3 houses and a bar. That's all.

mopinko

(70,260 posts)
2. bruse rauner just upped the number in illinois.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

has proposed a bill to make 3 time losers eligible to petition to get their license back w some restrictions.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
3. And here in Colorado, we now have a law making the 4th DUI a person gets a felony.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

Get 4 DUIs in Colorado, and you could go to prison.

Get seven like that guy in Wisconsin, and you're definitely going away for a long time.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
4. It keeps the person off the street, until they get out.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:52 PM
Oct 2015

I used to know a guy who went to jail for 3 years for several DUI's.
In jail, he made his own booze by fermenting fruit.

The day he got out?
You got it, got totally plowed and crashed a car.

Finally, his liver blew up and he died in jail.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
6. Wow, that's an epic alkie.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

When you're going as far as to make pruno in prison to quench your thirst, that takes dedication.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. Encountered Colorado's weak DUI enforcement.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 02:30 PM
Oct 2015

My father and I were hit by a guy that was drunk and on blow. Dad was hospitalized and his body looked like someone has pounded him with a baseball bat. I was luckier - only had a few cuts. The Arapahoe County ADA wanted to let the guy get 12 months probation and alcohol classes. Thought that was too easy so asked to address the court in opposition to the deal. That got the ADA to up it to 90 days house arrest as well as classes.

Ironically, the drunk that nearly killed my dad was the only offender with a single DUI that morning.
Some were on their third.

There is not a single drop of pity for drunk drivers in my heart.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
8. I agree with the last sentence.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:26 PM
Oct 2015

My parents and one of my sisters were T-boned by a drunk lawyer.

They weren't hurt badly, but somewhat.

The lawyer tried any and every trick he could thik of to delay, dismiss and screw up his paying for the accident.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
9. Glad they're okay. What did the guy from the Firm of Whiskee and Keyes get?
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

My mother landed in the hospital thanks to a drunk driver back in Florida and my brother was hit by one while driving home from work. So far my sister is the only one of us that hasn't been struck by a drunk driver.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
12. No jail, unfortunately
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:41 PM
Oct 2015

But he ended up paying my Dad for the hospital stay, and getting the car fixed.

Damn lawyer tried having the judge let him pay off in installments, turns out he had pulled that same thing before, and declared bankruptcy.

Judge told him no.

He ended up selling a luxury house he owned, (one of several,) and paid my Dad.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. I've read that if you go to trial, jurors seem to be incredibly sympathetic to the driver....
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:26 PM
Oct 2015

people are more likely to know more drunk drivers than victims of it, so they can empathize more easily with the driver.
It's another thing wealthy people get away with I guess.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. I have a hard time with it too, my two sister were killed by one just crossing the street. I wonder
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:49 PM
Oct 2015

if when people have serious alcoholics around them, it becomes a lesser priority than all the other havoc they create.
I have no idea. Somehow the jerk with many DUIs who killed my sisters was able to find a wife and have a baby by the time the court case came up. I wonder if his lawyer advised that as a sympathy ploy. Whatever, he didn't end up doing time.

Archae

(46,354 posts)
14. It varies, from case to case.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 04:53 PM
Oct 2015

If a woman is the drunk driver, and hit a guy, she's less likely than if a guy hits a woman.

Some lawyers also specialize in DUI cases.

Skittles

(153,208 posts)
19. agreed
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 08:49 PM
Oct 2015

I've always had a zero tolerance policy towards liquor and driving - meaning I only ever drink when I know I do not have to drive - it's not that hard of a rule to follow

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
7. Not to dismiss DUI but I'd be happy if people could drive well while sober
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 03:11 PM
Oct 2015

I spent my entire working life on the road doing field service and was a balls to the wall driver. I had places to be and things to do. Driving multiple hundreds of thousands of miles a year was not unusual.
One thing became painfully obvious is that the driving skills or the attention to the job at hand has seriously deteriorated over the last few decades.
I am thankful for every minute I don't have to share the road with people who aren't willing or capable to exert the effort to be a safe driver.

madville

(7,412 posts)
18. In a rural area I would say thousands of times
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 08:35 PM
Oct 2015

I know/knew people that drank heavily for 30-40 years without any kind of arrest. But I also know some that have 5+ DUIs and some that have done time for DUI manslaughter. There are people that drive reasonably well while over the legal limit so they rarely get caught, especially in rural areas.

You figure 5 days a week for a couple of decades and you might be talking 5,000 times occurrences easy.

Others get caught due to bad luck, a coworker got a DUI a few years ago while sitting at a red light and someone rear ended him, cop writing up the accident smelled the liquor. He probably would have still been driving home from the bar sloshed everyday if that hadn't happened but he is sober these days as far as I know.

KentuckyWoman

(6,697 posts)
21. Hosea Williams claimed he was nabbed 25 times but never convicted.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:45 AM
Oct 2015

He was convicted on a bunch of other driving charges and then continued to drive after he lost his license. The worst was leaving the scene of an accident. He was found behind the wheel passed out on a freeway exit ramp. His blood alcohol was just below the legal limit when they tested him so he was not charged with DUI.

I have an incredible amount of respect for him. He served in the military, earned a purple heart, left the military disabled, nearly beat to death while still in his uniform in a south where there were no hospitals that would treat him for more than 100 miles.

The man was a military hero, a civil rights hero, a social hero and there are probably more. He just kept going despite the fact every time you turn around some white person was trying to kill him.... and somehow never was filled with hate. He fed 100's of 1000's of people among so many other ways he served the community. He began a legacy that his children carry on.

There's no denying the man was a great man , drinking problem and all.

I am not saying drunk driving is OK..... but people are more than just that.

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