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packman

(16,296 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:47 PM Oct 2015

Wake up America - White Americans are your enemy

White Americans are the biggest terror threat in the United States, according to a study by the New America Foundation. The Washington-based research organization did a review of “terror” attacks on US soil since Sept. 11, 2001 and found that most of them were carried out by radical anti-government groups or white supremacists.

Almost twice as many people have died in attacks by right-wing groups in America than have died in attacks by Muslim extremists. Of the 26 attacks since 9/11 that the group defined as terror, 19 were carried out by non-Muslims. Yet there are no white Americans languishing inside the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay. And there are no drones dropping bombs on gatherings of military-age males in the country's lawless border regions.


http://www.globalpost.com/article/6592741/2015/06/24/white-americans-are-biggest-terror-threat-united-states

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Wake up America - White Americans are your enemy (Original Post) packman Oct 2015 OP
Clever to make the start date for this "study" September 12, 2001 (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #1
Not so clever - should have gone back a few years packman Oct 2015 #11
Even then I have a feeling I know which way the numbers would lean (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #18
It is nice that you have feelings about things. sudenlyseymour Oct 2015 #25
As a simple perusal of DU on daily basis will attest, the real white... Anansi1171 Oct 2015 #2
Well, there's a useless analysis struggle4progress Oct 2015 #3
WHY? packman Oct 2015 #10
Because there's really no such thing as "white," and because Guantanamo and drones struggle4progress Oct 2015 #15
Seemed, like others to have missed the point packman Oct 2015 #17
My understanding TeddyR Oct 2015 #21
I understand the point, but the rhetoric is muddy and confused: for example, struggle4progress Oct 2015 #24
Well, that's about as useful as blaming "Muslims" for jihadi fanaticism. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #4
Precisely Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #6
Since 9/11. That's a useful analysis. Codeine Oct 2015 #5
What is it with this 9/11 BS ? packman Oct 2015 #9
The Oklahoma city bombing killed 169 people LittleBlue Oct 2015 #20
"New America" Shandris Oct 2015 #7
Fundamentalism is the enemy of humanity. Rex Oct 2015 #8
Wake up DU - Today's race baiting thread is here. Bonx Oct 2015 #12
Did you even read the article - white race baiting? packman Oct 2015 #13
yes, yes. Bonx Oct 2015 #14
Zero recs. Hopefully people are catching on (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #19
+1 nt lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #23
we all have a magic thread trasher button olddots Oct 2015 #16
Perhaps you should make that "white American males." cwydro Oct 2015 #22
And that's why I carry...90% of the folks I'm around everyday are wht ileus Oct 2015 #26
Wow. Nice bait. linuxman Oct 2015 #27

sudenlyseymour

(25 posts)
25. It is nice that you have feelings about things.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:49 AM
Oct 2015

Of course, feelings don't actually match up to reality and scientific statistics.

In fact, the number of people who have perpetrated terrorism on US soil has overwhelmingly consisted of white males.

Let us just review. The bombing of the FBI buidling in Oklahoma was done by a white male. The shooting of innocent people in a church in SC was done by a white male. The shooting of people in a theatre in CO was done by a white male. The shooting of a congress person in AZ was done by a white male.

Clearly, white males are a threat to the safety of people in the US.

Anansi1171

(793 posts)
2. As a simple perusal of DU on daily basis will attest, the real white...
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:55 PM
Oct 2015

...supremacist organization promulgating terrorism isnt even mentioned...COPS.

They are off the chain, they are never wrong, and even if they are its not their money on the line anyway.

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
15. Because there's really no such thing as "white," and because Guantanamo and drones
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

really aren't going to help solve any terrorism problems

To be useful an analysis should point towards a solution -- or at least point towards what we need to learn before we can propose credible responses

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. Seemed, like others to have missed the point
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:03 PM
Oct 2015

The point, IMHO, of the article was to highlight that more terrorist attacks have been done since 9/11 and yet our focus, and the media's is not on the white fundamentalist committing those problems. Why aren't there white terrorist at Gitmo instead of the population that is there now? If we are going to be serious out terrorism, we have to expand our scope of who is a terrorist and treat them the same in identifying them, interrogating them, and punishing them.

A myopic viewpoint about race clouds the issue of terrorism.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
21. My understanding
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:26 PM
Oct 2015

And I could be wrong, is that the folks at Guantanamo are there because they are foreign nationals and Bush didn't want them on US soil having access to US courts. Sending US citizens to Guantanamo is almost certainly unconstitutional and unnecessary, because presumably the American citizens convicted in the US are sent to US prisons.

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
24. I understand the point, but the rhetoric is muddy and confused: for example,
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 08:21 PM
Oct 2015

you ask "Why aren't there white terrorist at Gitmo?"

Well, personally, I don't want anybody at GITMO

You say, "We have to expand our scope of who is a terrorist and treat them the same in identifying them, interrogating them, and punishing them"

My view is that the Bush-era policies were a disaster from the beginning, and I'm not going to echo an analysis that suggests we should expand those policies

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. Well, that's about as useful as blaming "Muslims" for jihadi fanaticism.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:19 PM
Oct 2015

Take the actions of an infinitesimal fragment of the whole and attribute all of it to the whole.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
6. Precisely
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:22 PM
Oct 2015

and not that I am making apologies either but "white" or people that appear "white" are not the majority globally speaking.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
9. What is it with this 9/11 BS ?
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015

Perhaps they should have started this analysis on April 19, 1995 - that would have made more sense.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
20. The Oklahoma city bombing killed 169 people
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:10 PM
Oct 2015

9/11 killed about 3000.

There is no comparison with respect to scale here.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
7. "New America"
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

Heh. That's not Orwellian or anything, not one bit. That sounds as trustworthy as the Lucifer Trust and the Bank of Honesty.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
16. we all have a magic thread trasher button
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:57 PM
Oct 2015

" its free and easy to use just like the ignore button "

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Perhaps you should make that "white American males."
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 03:28 PM
Oct 2015

Males are the perpetrators of mass shootings.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
26. And that's why I carry...90% of the folks I'm around everyday are wht
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:12 AM
Oct 2015

thus they pose a biggest threat number wise that's for sure...

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
27. Wow. Nice bait.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:32 AM
Oct 2015

Adjusted for population based on group (White vs Muslim, though there is a bit of overlap), it seems the Muslims are punching far, far, far above their weight class when it comes to extremist violence, compared to Whites. and making the start date post 9/11? Nice touch. Oh wait, was I supposed to just swallow your race baiting horseshit? Sorry, I messed up.

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