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LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:56 PM Oct 2015

Famous 'Napalm Girl' From Vietnam War Undergoes Treatment In U.S.



MIAMI (AP) — In the photograph that made Kim Phuc a living symbol of the Vietnam War, her burns aren't visible — only her agony as she runs wailing toward the camera, her arms flung away from her body, naked because she has ripped off her burning clothes.

More than 40 years later she can hide the scars beneath long sleeves, but a single tear down her otherwise radiant face betrays the pain she has endured since that errant napalm strike in 1972.

Now she has a new chance to heal — a prospect she once thought possible only in a life after death.

"So many years I thought that I have no more scars, no more pain when I'm in heaven. But now — heaven on earth for me!" Phuc says upon her arrival in Miami to see a dermatologist who specializes in laser treatments for burn patients.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kim-phuc-laser-treatment_562d3c31e4b0aac0b8fd39f6
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Famous 'Napalm Girl' From Vietnam War Undergoes Treatment In U.S. (Original Post) LiberalArkie Oct 2015 OP
... shenmue Oct 2015 #1
Thank you for the post. greatlaurel Oct 2015 #2
Saw this on BBC a short while ago malaise Oct 2015 #3
US media ronnie624 Oct 2015 #11
Asia??? malaise Oct 2015 #43
It is so good to have closure from this traumatic photo! CTyankee Oct 2015 #4
What a heart-wrenching but somehow beautiful story. hifiguy Oct 2015 #5
i hope we are paYing for this and much more for her JI7 Oct 2015 #6
It was a very touching story on CBS Sunday Morning today Zorro Oct 2015 #7
"Us"? ronnie624 Oct 2015 #14
Not those of us that watched the damned thing on TV. In jwirr Oct 2015 #18
+1 daleanime Oct 2015 #23
+2 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #30
+3 SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #33
+4 Enthusiast Oct 2015 #45
It's called "They learned their lesson". HughBeaumont Oct 2015 #49
Exactly. Our media today sucks. jwirr Oct 2015 #50
What a beautiful person........I cried through the whole story this morning. eom a kennedy Oct 2015 #25
Many years ago some buddies and I spent the night in jail Dale Scott Oct 2015 #8
Hope you also found Nixon's grave SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #13
Why? When I was in Nixon had nothing to do with it. Dale Scott Oct 2015 #16
Nixon's escalation of the war was certainly no less evil, lastlib Oct 2015 #19
Wut? hifiguy Oct 2015 #20
'Scuse me. I distinctly said "when I was in Nixon had nothing to do with Nam" Dale Scott Oct 2015 #24
Welcome to DU, ignore the jerks here. uppityperson Oct 2015 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Oct 2015 #42
You might want to read these links that point to those times to see Nixon's involvement... cascadiance Oct 2015 #54
"War Criminal Kissinger" BeanMusical Oct 2015 #34
the attack on Kim happened when Nixon was Pres and Nixon lied about having a plan to leave JI7 Oct 2015 #38
Right wing conservatives loved the Vietnam War rockfordfile Oct 2015 #52
I watched this... tavernier Oct 2015 #9
beautiful woman Skittles Oct 2015 #10
I met her sharp_stick Oct 2015 #12
She is the legacy of LBJ and Nixon Submariner Oct 2015 #15
Very glad to hear this. She deserves all the help she can be jwirr Oct 2015 #17
What a wonderful thing the doctor is doing for her passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #21
kick Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #22
somewhat off topic, but "napalm girl' has a name.... mike_c Oct 2015 #26
The photo itself is also commonly known as "Napalm Girl." subterranean Oct 2015 #40
The video of the original news footage is hard to watch... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #28
The baby MuseRider Oct 2015 #29
Dahr Jamail's journal showed similar images coming out of Iraq. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #35
I do remember seeing many photos MuseRider Oct 2015 #39
News footage. Would never make it onto corp TV today. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #36
That photograph has always haunted me. Kath1 Oct 2015 #31
That was a good story I always wondered what happened to her AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #32
Every time I read about this woman I cry. madaboutharry Oct 2015 #37
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #41
Here she is today yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #44
Oh my goodness I didn't know she was still alive flamingdem Oct 2015 #47
Excellent article PatSeg Oct 2015 #46
Apparently Obama banned napalm flamingdem Oct 2015 #48
That's good rockfordfile Oct 2015 #51
Bless her. patsimp Oct 2015 #53

malaise

(269,157 posts)
3. Saw this on BBC a short while ago
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:13 PM
Oct 2015

The things we've done in the so called name of freedom and democracy should frighten all of us

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
11. US media
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:00 PM
Oct 2015

repeatedly refer to the attack on Trang Bang as "accidental" and "misdirected". As if the US war crimes committed against the peoples of Indochina, were the result of a terrible "accident", instead of a deliberately calculated policy decision.

We owe many people in Asia a tremendous debt.

malaise

(269,157 posts)
43. Asia???
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:20 AM
Oct 2015

That's just a part of this mess. Now said M$Greedia will push a 'Disneylike' pile of crap.

We in the West are so good at condemning the use of chemical weapons by others.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
4. It is so good to have closure from this traumatic photo!
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:20 PM
Oct 2015

So many of us have grieved over this photo. It is wonderful now that she is alive and will be able to get the treatment she needs and deserves...

Zorro

(15,748 posts)
7. It was a very touching story on CBS Sunday Morning today
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:34 PM
Oct 2015

The effects of the war in Viet Nam are still with us in so many ways.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
14. "Us"?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:16 PM
Oct 2015

Most US citizens couldn't find Vietnam on a labeled map, and are utterly clueless about the war's true history and its significance.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. Not those of us that watched the damned thing on TV. In
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:41 PM
Oct 2015

those days they didn't lie to us. They showed us Kim running in terror. And it wasn't a one night thing. Back then no one could ignore a war because it was in our living room every day.

I wish the media was as responsible today.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
49. It's called "They learned their lesson".
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:37 PM
Oct 2015

The Failure Fuhrer would never have been allowed to "stay the course" on two credit-card wars had the horror of his illegal occupations been exposed. Our country seemed so gung-ho on war that not even Iraq POW torture seemed to make Americans gasp. Some even cheered it.

You'll never hear stories of how a troop of marine reserves from Brookpark, OH lost 26 men in 48 hours of fighting 10 years ago. I heard the horror stories from one of the troops themselves. They were sitting ducks. Some kids, some parents.

No, instead you get American Sniper; rah-rah crapola about how this was all fair and just vengeance for 9/11 and not the tax-wasting, purposeless meat grinder it really was.

 

Dale Scott

(13 posts)
8. Many years ago some buddies and I spent the night in jail
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

For pissing on LBJ's grave down in Johnson City Texas.

Actually the charge was trespassing and public intoxication, but the deputy admitted that it was a hell of an revenue stream from all of us Nam vets who made that promise when we were in country.

It was for you too Kim.

Roast In hell Lyndon, just roast in Hell.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
13. Hope you also found Nixon's grave
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

And took a dump.
Both deserve a lot if acrimony for their roles in that war.
I'm pretty sure that Kennedy would have pulled back had he served two terms. No Gulf of Tonkin bullshit.

 

Dale Scott

(13 posts)
16. Why? When I was in Nixon had nothing to do with it.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:30 PM
Oct 2015

As a matter of fact he Inherited that shit storm from LBJ.

Rot in hell LBJ, rot in hell.

lastlib

(23,269 posts)
19. Nixon's escalation of the war was certainly no less evil,
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:43 PM
Oct 2015

inherited or not. His massive bombing campaigns (Linebacker, etc.), invasions of Laos and Cambodia, and his treasonous exploitation of the war to get his sorry ass into the White House were as utterly criminal as GWBush's lies to get war started with Iraq. He deserves to burn in hell with the rest of the evil treasonous bastards.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
20. Wut?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:45 PM
Oct 2015

RICHARD NIXON had no responsibiity for deliberately prolonging the Vietnam War for four years so he could cynically use a "peace settlement" for purposes of boosting his reelection campaign?

The same Richard Nixon who, with War Criminal Kissinger, deliberately monkeywrenched LBJ's 1968 peace efforts?

What color is the sky in your world?

Enjoy your stay. It will be short.

 

Dale Scott

(13 posts)
24. 'Scuse me. I distinctly said "when I was in Nixon had nothing to do with Nam"
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oct 2015

And when I got back I didn't much give a fuck about democrats or republicans or Nixon or Carter or any of them.

I really still don't.

I guess if this place is of the mind that one party is pure as the driven snow and can do no wrong then I'm in the wrong place.

You have a good evening.

Response to Dale Scott (Reply #24)

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
54. You might want to read these links that point to those times to see Nixon's involvement...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:12 PM
Oct 2015

... which worked against LBJ's efforts to end the war earlier so that Nixon could get elected. Now, I don't like what LBJ did in a lot of the things he did in that war, but he has a lot of other accomplishments with his presidency, and these bits here indicate to me how it was Nixon's actions and not LBJ's that had the war drag out longer as it did.



This is more described here...

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668

Now you can rightly point out that LBJ probably shouldn't have had the illegal spying going on then, which is likely why this wasn't made public then. But you should note equally that Nixon's actions that prevented earlier peace talks from happening so that he could win the election were also treasonous as LBJ described them. LBJ shouldn't take all the blame for the length of the Vietnam war, when arguably Nixon had a lot to do with that.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
52. Right wing conservatives loved the Vietnam War
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

A known republican conservative was John Wayne. "He used his iconic star power to support conservative causes, including rallying support for the Vietnam War"

tavernier

(12,396 posts)
9. I watched this...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:36 PM
Oct 2015

This poor "child to woman" has lived in pain all of her life, due to the napalm scarring burns on her body! My family suffered emotional scars from a war, but just to realize that some victims of war never lose the daily physical pain!

She said her life was spared for a reason (despite being declared dead and being put in the morgue for days), and she is now working with war survivors. This came only after she had made a decision to defect to Canada and give up a somewhat safe life with her husband, who was frightened for them both, but followed her wishes.

I'm touched and saddened knowing of her struggle, but glad that she finally had her story told. I know that many on this board believe that our lives are just a series of non related events, and any justice is merely coincidence, but as I've learned in my almost 70 years, things just aren't always that simple.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
12. I met her
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:05 PM
Oct 2015

several years ago. I didn't even know her history for the first couple of hours that we were together. It was a common friend that brought it up. She amazed me with her love of life and her incredible ability to bring everyone together. She's an incredible person and I wish only the best for her.

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
15. She is the legacy of LBJ and Nixon
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:16 PM
Oct 2015

Their rotting corpses should be transplanted from the cemetery into a landfill compost heap where they both belong.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. Very glad to hear this. She deserves all the help she can be
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:34 PM
Oct 2015

given. She is the woman who led us out of the War.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
21. What a wonderful thing the doctor is doing for her
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:48 PM
Oct 2015

She and her husband make a really cute couple. I wish her healing and no more pain once this is over.

Wouldn't it be something if all collateral damage victims of war were treated for free by the country that caused them injury? It seems it should be that way in a compassionate world.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
26. somewhat off topic, but "napalm girl' has a name....
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:15 PM
Oct 2015

I'm not criticizing the poster, but rather American journalism, or perhaps the America readership. Most have no idea who Kim Phuc is, and I'm betting many news outlets resist spelling her name for its sophomoric value, but still. "Napalm girl" is so damned third grade.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
40. The photo itself is also commonly known as "Napalm Girl."
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:42 PM
Oct 2015

Which is probably why they put quotes around it. The headline writer didn't make it up. As you say, most people don't know who Kim Phuc is, but when I read "'Napalm Girl' from Vietnam War," I immediately knew to whom it was referring. They could have included her name in the headline, of course, but they did use it throughout the article. I've also seen no reluctance to use her name by other news outlets.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
28. The video of the original news footage is hard to watch...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:35 PM
Oct 2015

As she runs by you can see the extent of her burns.

Another small child (dead or dying) is being carried out too.

Again: [font color=red size=6]WARNING - GRAPHIC VIDEO[/font]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x71ks1_phan-thi-kim-phuc-vietnam-napalm_news

When burns like this happen the upper layer of skin blanches and peals off like a glove.

The actual pain arrives later.

MuseRider

(34,115 posts)
29. The baby
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:42 PM
Oct 2015

I had never seen the baby. I don't know if when I saw the original video or photos right after it had happened if I had just turned away, I can't imagine I could forget that. I know I never will now.

It all makes me so ashamed.

MuseRider

(34,115 posts)
39. I do remember seeing many photos
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:15 PM
Oct 2015

from Iraq. Made me ill and very sad. Photos from Falllujah were terrible. ALL photos like this are.

It is important that we see them. Breaks you down but important. We will never stop the senseless killing until the majority of the people here are ruined with photos of what we are doing.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
31. That photograph has always haunted me.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:49 PM
Oct 2015

I was a 14 year old high school girl in 1972 and that picture did more to make me very anti-war and a peace activist than any 1,000 speeches ever could. The image speaks for itself. Always wondered what became of her.

Bless her. Hope she gets the treatment she needs.

And damn the people responsible for putting this child through so much misery!

flamingdem

(39,319 posts)
47. Oh my goodness I didn't know she was still alive
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:28 PM
Oct 2015

I saw that picture on the front page of the NYT as a child. Happy to see her, great article.

PatSeg

(47,567 posts)
46. Excellent article
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:25 PM
Oct 2015

I remember the horrors of that time too well. It seems as a species, we never learn.

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