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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:12 AM Oct 2015

Cop in CA certified to use nunchucks on-duty... Nunchucks are illegal in CA.

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/you-cant-make-stuff-cops-begin-carrying-nunchucks-subdue-suspects

Sgt. Casey Day was recently certified to use nunchucks for the Anderson Police Department. He explained the different ways they can be used to help law enforcement.

He said they can be used to hit, strike, jab and take someone down. They can also be used as a restraint to lock someone’s hand, elbow or ankle.

Another ironic facet to this ridiculous endeavor by the Anderson police department is that nunchucks are illegal in California — seriously they are.

While it is perfectly legal to own two sticks and a rope, the second you attach the three items, you become a criminal — unless of course, you are above the law, like cops.




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"Hand, elbow or ankle." Don't make me laugh. How long until cops start choking suspects with nunchucks?
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Cop in CA certified to use nunchucks on-duty... Nunchucks are illegal in CA. (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2015 OP
How long? leftofcool Oct 2015 #1
A truly amazing use of tax dollars discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2015 #2
Open carry is illegal in California, too. pintobean Oct 2015 #3
It's one thing to carry a weapon that incapacitates a suspect... DetlefK Oct 2015 #4
Pretty much anything a cop carries could be used for torture pintobean Oct 2015 #5
An illegal act happening is just one half. The other half is proving the illegal act. DetlefK Oct 2015 #8
I went to high school in California exboyfil Oct 2015 #6
The reason they wear uniforms is to signal they have special status HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #7
sick. thanks for posting - always thought they were NUM chucks :) Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2015 #9
Nunchaku, properly IDemo Oct 2015 #11
When threshing soybeans is outlawed, then only outlaws will thresh soybeans Orrex Oct 2015 #10
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
3. Open carry is illegal in California, too.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:30 AM
Oct 2015

Yet, cops do it, as they should. I'm all for giving cops the right to carry whatever non-lethal weapons they want. Nunchucks are preferable to bullets in many situations.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. It's one thing to carry a weapon that incapacitates a suspect...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:35 AM
Oct 2015

It's another thing to carry a weapon that can easily be used to torture a suspect.

Hey, have you read that story about the suspect who was restrained to a chair in the precinct and then tased in the testicles? Google it.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
5. Pretty much anything a cop carries could be used for torture
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:40 AM
Oct 2015

Torturing suspects is illegal. Would you rather the gun be the only tool available to them?

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
8. An illegal act happening is just one half. The other half is proving the illegal act.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:23 AM
Oct 2015

When a lethal weapon is used for torture, it leaves marks, because it was actually designed to damage the body.

Tasers were designed for pain, so cops think they can liberally tase anyone because it doesn't really count.
(About 10 years ago, somebody developed handcuffs that would allow the cop to tase the handcuffed suspect by remote-control. Luckily, they never caught on.)

Beating someone with a baton or a nunchuck leaves two marks: The legal mark that the cop used violence on the suspect and a mark in the consciousness: The cop realizes that he is dealing out harm.
But with tasers, it's sanitary: You are not hitting him, you are just pressing a button. And you are not causing fleshwounds, so how bad could it possibly be?

What if cops had a non-lethal weapon that allowed them to choke a suspect without leaving a mark? Why wouldn't they choke the suspect? It incapacitates the suspect and it's non-lethal, so it doesn't count. And if the suspect dies anyways, you have always been taught that you are theoretically in the right anyways and in practice the whole legal system has your back anyways.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
6. I went to high school in California
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:49 AM
Oct 2015

One day a kid went after my friend with a pair of nunchucks. My friend promptly took them away from him and threw them on top of the school building. Didn't see it, but I heard about it.

Nothing to do with the story, just a fond memory.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. The reason they wear uniforms is to signal they have special status
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:16 AM
Oct 2015

to have tools of violence and authority to use them that other citizens do not.

That status has arguably been abused, but there is no argument at all that the uniform is a warning to the public that interacting with the person wearing it can be dangerous.

I'm no more worried about nunchucks than I am the other things on their tool belt from pepper-spray to pistols but I prefer police in uniforms, and when they aren't dressed in warning attire I expect them to take off the tool belts and to be non-threatening.

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