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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:48 AM Oct 2015

from bad to worse. Now Ben Carson admits to trying to stab someone...

Morning Joe was pretty much open mouthed when that clip played of Carson calmly talking about how he used to go after people with bats and rocks and then tried to knife someone. Even Joe was flabbergasted.

Can this lineup of republicans look any uglier? Sure, maybe he didn't get a chance to talk about how the Lord saved him, but doncha wonder if the Lord could lose him again just because the Lord can't waste time with the likes of Carson. Maybe on Inauguration Day, then what?

Even trump at his craziest doesn't come across THIS crazy...

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from bad to worse. Now Ben Carson admits to trying to stab someone... (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2015 OP
If Carson says he was defending himself against immigrants or hoodlums, the GOP will love him more. LonePirate Oct 2015 #1
Oh boy.. whathehell Oct 2015 #2
The more off someone is, the better R voters like him! polichick Oct 2015 #3
Well, first he is a Seventh Day Adventist. longship Oct 2015 #4
Carson, tRump and john Ellis bush madokie Oct 2015 #5
Graham looked positively SANE this morning on MJ. CTyankee Oct 2015 #6
Isn't it funny how the people we used to think horrible and crazy now Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2015 #10
How soon before the GOP leads him away, like Blanche duBois at the end of Streetcar CTyankee Oct 2015 #14
Yes ! exactly. But...starting to think there really is no Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2015 #22
Doc the Ripper trusty elf Oct 2015 #7
The racists will love that storyline loyalsister Oct 2015 #29
Sadly, that's the most reasonable thing Carson has said so far Orrex Oct 2015 #8
Ever met a pathological liar who fills the silence with lies so you'll like them? NightWatcher Oct 2015 #9
Lately mercuryblues Oct 2015 #11
OK, the guy suffers from delusions. CTyankee Oct 2015 #13
????? fifthoffive Oct 2015 #12
You know it's bad when Cruz appears saner in comparison. You are right to be very CTyankee Oct 2015 #15
This is not new news. It's always been part of his story. WillowTree Oct 2015 #16
I grew up on the mean streets of Detroit, just like Carson did MrScorpio Oct 2015 #17
He should have said he once shot someone, it'd play better with the base. frizzled Oct 2015 #18
Just for snoring! jberryhill Oct 2015 #27
I think the man is a little crazy..... UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #19
But he's so nice!!!111111 jpak Oct 2015 #20
And this guy wants to be president. Yeah right. Initech Oct 2015 #21
So maybe he's genuinely medicated to stay calm. Vinca Oct 2015 #23
i think i saw a clip of this but not sure if it was joe. maybe, he's said it before? La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #24
at least he never smoked teh pot! Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #25
He's stabbed lots of people - that's what a surgeon does jberryhill Oct 2015 #26
Note to self: avoid jberryhill's clinic frizzled Oct 2015 #28
But seriously... jberryhill Oct 2015 #32
Heh! n/t FSogol Oct 2015 #35
A surgeon does more than that ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #30
Yup, that leaves surgeons one-up on lawyers jberryhill Oct 2015 #31
Never mind.... Bigmack Oct 2015 #33
I certainly hope he doesn't stab anyone on the next GOP debate stage.... FSogol Oct 2015 #34
Don't worry, Trump went to a military academy and thus has actual combat training Bucky Oct 2015 #37
lol! Mosby Oct 2015 #38
How can you cut a budget if you can't cut a bud? Bucky Oct 2015 #36

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
1. If Carson says he was defending himself against immigrants or hoodlums, the GOP will love him more.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:00 AM
Oct 2015

Those of us on the left need to realize we are dealing with people for whom rational thought is impossible. We cannot appeal to their senses of reason or decency as they have neither. We might be outraged by behavior such as Carson's but the RWNJs see the world completely different than we do. This story may mean nothing to them and we should be prepared for that.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Well, first he is a Seventh Day Adventist.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:18 AM
Oct 2015

I have experience with these people, however I will admit that it is anecdotal.

Here I go.

First, I have never known a Seventh Day Adventist who I did not like personally. They are, in my experience, truly nice and gentle folks.

Second, they are kooky beyond credibility. They have some rather radical beliefs about most things, nonetheless worshipping god on Sunday probably being the least of it.

They reject a lot of science, including biology, physics, etc. As a whole, they tend to creationism, the young Earth kind. If that weren't bad enough there's the Saturday sabbath thing which really sticks in their craw. Here is where the lunacy of their beliefs sticks out. Oh! And I should mention that they tend to be End Timers as well.

But I did start out by saying that in my experience I have liked every Seventh Day Adventist I have met. Indeed, that is true, until recently.

Ben Carson is an ignorant and dangerous buffoon who would use his political power to foist his beliefs on the country. Of all the nice folks who are Seventh Day Adventists, he is the first I could label with "utter lying asshole".

I should remind folks here that I am a lifelong atheist but normally I do not criticize religious people in spite that I think religion is generally a bad thing. However, when a person uses religion to promote rubbish, I draw the line.

Carson is one of the many GOP clown car occupants who do this. In fact I do not see one of the GOP candidates who do not put religion first. The exceptions are scary, Lindsey Graham, and possibly Trump (although Trump has not spoken on religion much at all, and there is plenty of worries beyond religion about Trump's candidacy.)

R&K for this one.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
6. Graham looked positively SANE this morning on MJ.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:27 AM
Oct 2015

Even he looked like he wanted to throw up a bit...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Isn't it funny how the people we used to think horrible and crazy now
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:17 AM
Oct 2015

appear sane? How low can the bar go? This all is a true gift to us Democrats

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. How soon before the GOP leads him away, like Blanche duBois at the end of Streetcar
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:26 AM
Oct 2015

Named Desire? You know, where she takes the arm of the asylum worker, smiles and says "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers."

It's really kind of chilling, tho...

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Yes ! exactly. But...starting to think there really is no
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:22 PM
Oct 2015

"GOP" any more. It's completely fragmented. In the past, all single focused = stop anything Obama wants.

1. Now, Boehner gave up.
2. Kochs probably in turmoil. who were they supporting?
3. Trump effectively blew up Jeb's chances.
4. Tea Party freaks shaking their end up.
5. BushCo probably floundering.
6. Trump telling people GOP all about money
7. Trump telling people it's OK to denounce Iraq war shenanigans.
8. Wonder who Rush is supporting?

It's like someone blew the party up with dynamite !

Perhaps the piper is being paid ? The result of not having anything to be for??

trusty elf

(7,394 posts)
7. Doc the Ripper
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:32 AM
Oct 2015


"I had real anger issues. I would just fly off the handle and really become quite irrational and try to hurt people with baseball bats, hammers, whatever. In this particular case, I happened to have a large camping knife. And, you know, one of my friends angered me. And I just lunged at his abdomen with the knife. Probably would have seriously injured or killed him, but he happened to have on a large metal belt buckle under his clothing, upon which the blade broke.
And, of course, he fled in terror. But I was more horrified than he was, because I realized that I was trying to kill somebody over nothing — and that I would never realize my dreams of becoming a physician. And I would end up in jail, reform school, or the grave. And I just locked myself in the bathroom and started praying …"

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
29. The racists will love that storyline
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:50 PM
Oct 2015

I bet it will come across as recovery from blackness.

It's confirmation of the correctness of their bigoted views. Carson seems to be happy to continue to capitalize on the narrative that begins with the exceptional Black doctor who defied circumstances and overcame Blackness.

His greatest gift to white republicans is being a best friend who is Black. If he were to get elected I think he would set back race relations centuries.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
8. Sadly, that's the most reasonable thing Carson has said so far
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:40 AM
Oct 2015

I'd guess that he's just secured the GOP nomination, in fact!

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. Ever met a pathological liar who fills the silence with lies so you'll like them?
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 09:44 AM
Oct 2015

I think he's a liar.
He said he was robbed at a Popeyes....never really happened.
Now he says he stabbed a guy, or almost did? I bet this never happened.

mercuryblues

(14,532 posts)
11. Lately
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:21 AM
Oct 2015

I have been wondering if this really happened. With all the press this is getting the guy who he allegedly tried to stab has not come forward. No one that he claims he threw rocks and bricks at have come forward.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
13. OK, the guy suffers from delusions.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:22 AM
Oct 2015

I hallucinated once after a long stint in the recovery room after surgery. I was sleep deprived, the doc told me. I reinterpreted things that were going on. It wasn't scary but it was the strangest thing I ever experienced.

Perhaps he is hallucinating after too much sleep deprivation as a surgeon. Maybe his brain has deteriorated after all those long hours in the OR...

fifthoffive

(382 posts)
12. ?????
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 10:22 AM
Oct 2015

Is he witnessing or campaigning?

This man and his supporters are scary because of their desire to create a theocracy.

The really scary one is Ted Cruz, who many are saying will be the one to rise if Trump and Carson fall.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
16. This is not new news. It's always been part of his story.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:07 AM
Oct 2015

It was even portrayed in the movie that was made about him.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
17. I grew up on the mean streets of Detroit, just like Carson did
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:04 PM
Oct 2015

Never once did I have to go after anyone else with a knife or a club.

As a matter of fact, Carson sounds exactly like one of those people I would have avoided.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
21. And this guy wants to be president. Yeah right.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

Though he is the perfect spokesman for the raging asshole wing of the Republican party. :eyes;

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
23. So maybe he's genuinely medicated to stay calm.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:45 PM
Oct 2015

He acts medicated. It seems he'd barely have enough gumption to pick up a knife to butter his bread let alone stab someone.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. But seriously...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:17 PM
Oct 2015

One of the requirements of being a surgeon is having the ability to cut people open without hesitation, remorse or pity.
 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
33. Never mind....
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

Never mind what happened when he was a kid.
"Dr. Carson... would you say the world is around 4 Billion years old, or around 10,000 years old?'
Carson: "Around 10,000."
BZZZZZTTT "Next contestant! Thanks for playing, and goodbye."

It's a test - a really simple test - of whether science and reason hold a place in Carson's world view. Anybody... brain surgeon or not.. who thinks the world is 10,000 years old is incapable of leading this country in the 21st Century.
There's lots more.... Carson says that the power of God has directed him to run. He thinks - contrary to science - that homosexuality is a choice. He thinks Islam was founded by Esau rather than Mohammed. He didn't know the Sunni and Shia were deadly enemies and thought they could form an alliance.
Carson is/was a brilliant neurosurgeon. An expertise in one area doesn't make him qualified to be president.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
37. Don't worry, Trump went to a military academy and thus has actual combat training
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:25 PM
Oct 2015

And what better advertising for his plans for Obamacare than tackling a surgeon to the ground and pummeling him?

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
36. How can you cut a budget if you can't cut a bud?
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:23 PM
Oct 2015

How can you broker a deal for justice if you can't deal out justice to a bro?

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