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Takket

(21,607 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:09 AM Nov 2015

I hate the word "truther"

This has been bugging me for a long time since the "truther" nonsense about Obama's birth certificate. Now there is a thread on here about "truthers" attacking a Sandy Hook mother.

I don't like this word "truther" being used to describe conspiracy theorists. It implies that they have the truth and everyone else either doesn't understand or is suppressing the truth. Every time now a small group of people come up with a crazy idea that is shown to be false by all concrete evidence, the media labels then "truthers". there is no "truth" to anything these crackpots put forth.

We need a word that means "unfounded baseless circumstantial conspiracy theory", and then we need to label these people with that word.

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Oneironaut

(5,519 posts)
1. Didn't they coin the word?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:12 AM
Nov 2015

The connotation was that they had all of the facts, and everybody else was an idiotic bleating sheep who loved Fascism?

Truther groups have a creepy cult vibe to them.

-none

(1,884 posts)
5. Not all conspiracy theories are created equal.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

Sometime those saying conspiracy are correct. Calling everyone saying whatever was a conspiracy 'truthers" muddies the waters, which I think is the intent. It casts doubts in actual conspiracies. Real conspiracies do exist, otherwise we would not have a common everyday word for it.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. And the very term "conspiracy theory" comes from the motherlode, the JFK assassination
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:53 AM
Nov 2015

There are plenty of theories involving conspiracies that are not "Conspiracy Theories" (tm); AFAIK the phrase in that sense comes from the JFK assassination. And for that matter not all Conspiracy Theories involve literal conspiracies.

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
16. you mean the JFK so-called "assassination"
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:53 AM
Nov 2015

You can't be so naive as to believe there was an actual John Kennedy -- that's just what they want you to believe!

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
7. I just call them "Projectors"
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:19 AM
Nov 2015

That is, they project the "truth" they want people to believe. They have no intention of revealing the truth that simply is.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. It comes from the so-called "9/11 Truth Movement"
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:51 AM
Nov 2015

Which went from some pretty thoughtful and important questions to talk of holograms and controlled nuclear detonations at an incredible speed. But I'm pretty sure that's where the name comes from.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
11. isn't that, that crazy loon
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:57 AM
Nov 2015

Alex Jones stuff? How the hell did he become so main stream? .. I guess Republicans elevated him like they did with Michael Savage...Hard to believe they have any bearing at all on what goes on in this country.

yuiyoshida

(41,835 posts)
14. There is a difference
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 04:25 AM
Nov 2015

Art Bell may have had many guests, but he never said he was a follower of any of them. Even his friend Richard C. Hogaland, he took with a grain of salt.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
17. I don't like the degradation of the word.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:00 AM
Nov 2015

Truth has always been one of my most respected values. Everyone would be better off if truths
were totally apparent and visible.

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