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malaise

(269,186 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:21 PM Nov 2015

Veteran cop whose mysterious death sparked a massive manhunt 'faked a chase - then killed himself

because he was suspected of using police money to buy vacations'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3302697/Investigators-discuss-new-information-officers-death.html#ixzz3qXYYNXSQ
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Investigators with 'significant new information' about the fatal shooting of Charles Gliniewic are expected to reveal the Chicago police officer committed suicide when he died in early September.

The Lake County Sheriff's Office is holding a news conference Wednesday to share the new details and it is anticipated officials will announce Gliniewicz committed suicide due to personal issues.

A legal investigation into Gliniewicz may also have been a factor, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.
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Veteran cop whose mysterious death sparked a massive manhunt 'faked a chase - then killed himself (Original Post) malaise Nov 2015 OP
Perpetrated Idea of "war on cops"... sad BTW he was NOT Chicago cop... Fox Lake cop Serial Mom Nov 2015 #1
Damn malaise Nov 2015 #2
Also was willing to send 3 innocent men to jail for life and added a racial slant just so his Person 2713 Nov 2015 #13
I'm glad this came out BEFORE someone could get railroaded to death row... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #3
People were arrested but thankfully they had alibis Person 2713 Nov 2015 #14
a totall no brainer hyped up for impending gang war olddots Nov 2015 #4
Wow what a mess...don't know what to make of this story. Rex Nov 2015 #5
The saddest part is for his family malaise Nov 2015 #7
Yes that is where all my condolences go to and the poor cops that buried him in full uniform. Rex Nov 2015 #9
Very true malaise Nov 2015 #10
Agree, I am stupid and even I know there would be gunpowder residue on his hand. Rex Nov 2015 #11
The thing is as usual they believed the cop's version malaise Nov 2015 #12
Also got to wonder about that one too. Rex Nov 2015 #16
His GoFundMe page indicates only $1700 raised in 2 months riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #20
Wow, that is great sleuthing work! I agree, a family left behind...that fund should be huge. Rex Nov 2015 #21
They sandbagged the investigation and the police force harassed the coroner who suspected suicide Person 2713 Nov 2015 #17
Now I have a hard time believing he was the only one involved in fraud. Rex Nov 2015 #18
It came out in the news awhile ago after this happened that the Fox Lake force was already under Person 2713 Nov 2015 #22
If true that is most vile. A step right out of George Orwells 1984. Rex Nov 2015 #23
Have you seen a picture of him and his tats? He looks like he came out of some now not futuristic Person 2713 Nov 2015 #25
Hopefully no innocent bystanders were killed or injured in the search for perpetrators. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #6
Let's give thanks that he said black and white malaise Nov 2015 #8
I read this this morning. This was a big story in the Chicago area riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #15
Actually I partially credit local media for the truth coming out . They kept on the information from the Person 2713 Nov 2015 #19
I'm in the far western suburbs so my Daily Herald is skewed a bit different riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #24
Daily Herald yuck all I can say . Online suntimes or trib if that is you local paper Person 2713 Nov 2015 #26
Yeah, agreed but they're the only "local" paper out here in the boonies riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #29
Wgn is discussing the cost of manhunt and iforce investigation online Person 2713 Nov 2015 #27
Thanks for this malaise Nov 2015 #28
That is one of the craziest stories I have heard in a long time... TipTok Nov 2015 #30

Serial Mom

(2,256 posts)
1. Perpetrated Idea of "war on cops"... sad BTW he was NOT Chicago cop... Fox Lake cop
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:26 PM
Nov 2015

He ran the Police "Explorers" group in Fox Lake... a group for 14-21 yr olds that hoped to grow up to be cops... he "trained" them by creating staged crime scenes so they would learn how to look at a crime. I think he stole money from that group too.

malaise

(269,186 posts)
2. Damn
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:30 PM
Nov 2015

What a mess - I guess in he end he didn't want to deprive his wife and kids of the pension money. Greed, arrogance and hubris - there are no words.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
13. Also was willing to send 3 innocent men to jail for life and added a racial slant just so his
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:05 PM
Nov 2015

family would get higher pension payout for being murdered on the job so add heartless scum to your list
They claim the manhunt of 400 cops and helicopters for a 24 day cost $300K . Journalists locally are already crying bullshit

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
4. a totall no brainer hyped up for impending gang war
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

News media at it's worst as ussual and the ignorant public buys it in time installments.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Wow what a mess...don't know what to make of this story.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:36 PM
Nov 2015

Wouldn't there be fingerprints from someone else on the gun, also wouldn't he have gunpowder residue on his hand if he shot himself?

Sad story, to be sure.

malaise

(269,186 posts)
7. The saddest part is for his family
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:42 PM
Nov 2015

He sure created quite a feast for the 'war on cops' posse and media hacks. He managed to earn a hero's send off - clearly corrupt beyond belief.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Yes that is where all my condolences go to and the poor cops that buried him in full uniform.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:47 PM
Nov 2015

They all must feel like someone just punched them hard in the gut. All of them trying to catch their breath in disbelief.

malaise

(269,186 posts)
10. Very true
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:54 PM
Nov 2015

Not the mention the hundreds of people who lined the route for his send off.
The question is how were they investigating him for so long and no alarm bells went off - seems as if the higher ups were more interested in the 'war on cops' meme.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Agree, I am stupid and even I know there would be gunpowder residue on his hand.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:58 PM
Nov 2015

That the tragectory and distance from the gun fired would tell them something. Foot prints, tire tracks etc.. They must have all been running around without comparing notes. Once the various agencies looked over their notes they noticed something fishy about the officer.

Sad it took all this to get there. Yeah the hundreds of people in good faith. Sad.

malaise

(269,186 posts)
12. The thing is as usual they believed the cop's version
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:01 PM
Nov 2015

before looking at the facts. The residue should have been the first clue. If this is the truth , it is shocking. If it is not then he may be the scapegoat for bigger thieves.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Also got to wonder about that one too.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:08 PM
Nov 2015

He shot himself and hit his vest the first time. The second shot hit a part of his unprotected torso. Again I am dumb, but that just sounds like a really bad way to kill yourself. And it wouldn't be valid to a well trained police force. So yeah...foul play, maybe someone up the food chain is committing fraud and the cop was just the little fish.

I feel so sorry for the people that got involved in this in good faith, I hope this does not jade their view of the world. AGAIN, you point out something that really needs to be addressed - they believed him blindly and recklessly, because of a piece of metal he wears on his shirt.

Time for a policy change. Cops are human and prone to do the EXACT same things as we civilians do...that needs to be realized and soon.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
20. His GoFundMe page indicates only $1700 raised in 2 months
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:33 PM
Nov 2015

So very few folks actually donated which leads me to wonder if a lot of people knew something was fishy right from the start.

Things that make you go hmmmm

https://www.gofundme.com/Lt-Gliniewicz

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Wow, that is great sleuthing work! I agree, a family left behind...that fund should be huge.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

Interesting the public pomp does not match the private life cracked open for public scutiny. Fishy fishy fishy.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
17. They sandbagged the investigation and the police force harassed the coroner who suspected suicide
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:11 PM
Nov 2015

Also tried to side step the coroner see link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10492168

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Now I have a hard time believing he was the only one involved in fraud.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:20 PM
Nov 2015

If nothing else, the PD and some bigger fish know something. It would even be more disgusting (imo) if they used he death to start this fake War on Cops. Ongoing investigations will probably keep it all under wraps.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
22. It came out in the news awhile ago after this happened that the Fox Lake force was already under
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:35 PM
Nov 2015

investigation but since it is still ongoing no idea what will come out in the future.
I believe the chief had already stepped down before the death occurred

War on community more like it. He tried to get 3 people in jail for life as a last act
One of the groups he was stealing from was a group of kids to pay for porn and gym memberships.
Guy on TV just said many suspected the force knew this was a suicide long time ago and that this is pension fraud . Yep more like war on the community not cops

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. If true that is most vile. A step right out of George Orwells 1984.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:37 PM
Nov 2015

Using his death to become more authoritarian. Stinks. Smells like fascism.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
25. Have you seen a picture of him and his tats? He looks like he came out of some now not futuristic
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:45 PM
Nov 2015

tale of authority
Yes although you can not judge a book by its cover , he had an unusual tat look for an LEO

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,369 posts)
6. Hopefully no innocent bystanders were killed or injured in the search for perpetrators.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015

Police can sometimes be overzealous in their pursuits.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
15. I read this this morning. This was a big story in the Chicago area
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:07 PM
Nov 2015

His death was painted as part of the whole "war on cops".

Huge send off. Big fundraising drive for his family.

Now it turns out he was just another crooked cop. I wonder how the Chicago media will play the story now?



Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
19. Actually I partially credit local media for the truth coming out . They kept on the information from the
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

coroner who said it was suicide and a lot of editorials since it happened asking what is going on with the case and what is holding up the conclusion for so long
They had published and TV reports on the difference in pension his family would get if the board ruled murder in line of duty vs suicide
Also publishing and TV reporting info about the ongoing investigation of the fox lake police force as a whole
Local stations just preempted and ran the whole conference here
After the conference one commentator said the amount they claimed the big manhunt cost is way off ,basically bs . That the is cost way over what the force is claiming for 400 cops and helicopters in manhunt. I wouldn't say the are trying to hide or protect cops on this one

Of course I guess it depends on what one reads , listens to or watches but even the local Fox station wanted answers and brought up tension between the coroner and police in Fox Lake and how they tried to side step his authority on the case over a month ago
My question would be how is that police force going to play this

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. I'm in the far western suburbs so my Daily Herald is skewed a bit different
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

Thanks for the updates! I don't have a teevee so I tend to rely on Internet and papers.

I'm thinking the entire Fox Lake police force is about to get burned.

There's a bad smell coming off....

Peace!

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
26. Daily Herald yuck all I can say . Online suntimes or trib if that is you local paper
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:53 PM
Nov 2015

I have picked their paper up in the past and enjoyed their racist slants . They were almost funny
Also they are big in NW burbs so they can't make waves for Fox Lake I presume
Like I said I guess it depends on your outlets but many local ones have pushed for the truth on this including paper editorials

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
29. Yeah, agreed but they're the only "local" paper out here in the boonies
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

I am no fan of the Tribune - so Republican they may as well have elephants framing the masthead...

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