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kpete

(72,013 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:11 AM Nov 2015

Wow: George H.W. Bush says Cheney and Rumsfeld "damaged the reputation" of America:


"Very hard-line... just iron-ass."

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In "Destiny and Power: The American Odyssey Of George Herbert Walker Bush," author Jon Meacham quotes Bush as saying that Cheney and Rumsfeld were too hawkish and that their harsh stance damaged the reputation of the United States, the cable news network said.

Speaking of Cheney, who was vice president under President George W. Bush, the senior Bush said: "I don't know, he just became very hard-line and very different from the Dick Cheney I knew and worked with," according to the report.

........

"The reaction (to Sept. 11), what to do about the Middle East. Just iron-ass. His seeming knuckling under to the real hard-charging guys who want to fight about everything, use force to get our way in the Middle East," Bush told Meacham in the book to be published next Tuesday.

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On Rumsfeld, secretary of defense for most of the two terms served by his son, Bush is even more critical. He is quoted as saying: "I don't like what he did, and I think it hurt the President," referring to his son.

"I've never been that close to him anyway. There's a lack of humility, a lack of seeing what the other guy thinks. He's more kick ass and take names, take numbers. I think he paid a price for that. Rumsfeld was an arrogant fellow," he was quoted as saying in the biography.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/05/us-usa-politics-bush-idUSKCN0SU05620151105#imX9E8OXqC47KqtC.97
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/destiny-and-power-bush-cheney-rumsfeld_563ab54de4b0b24aee48ee95



so what's he saying his Son who was The President was bullied by Cheney and Rumsfeld?
Not painting a good picture of his son either.
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Wow: George H.W. Bush says Cheney and Rumsfeld "damaged the reputation" of America: (Original Post) kpete Nov 2015 OP
A Pox on all their Houses. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #1
The pot calling the kettle black... Human101948 Nov 2015 #2
The Wingnut reaction to this should be entertaining... JHB Nov 2015 #3
Once gain, it's worth mentioning that the Dennis Hopper character in "Land Of The Dead"... Miles Archer Nov 2015 #4
The logical conclusion is obvious. Boy W ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2015 #5
Fracturing of the Bush Empire with vicious infighting. Jerry442 Nov 2015 #6
If Poppy's brakes are off, deminks Nov 2015 #7
"It wasn't my boy's fault. He was led astray by those older bullies he started hanging out with." tanyev Nov 2015 #8
That's what I thought, too deutsey Nov 2015 #9
Ding ryan_cats Nov 2015 #10
heh kpete Nov 2015 #12
rec! napkinz Nov 2015 #15
craven! Trying to wriggle out of responsibility since Trump blew up their "W kept us safe" meme librechik Nov 2015 #11
Trying to whitewash his sons. MiniMe Nov 2015 #13
Death bed regrets. morningfog Nov 2015 #14
Careful Poppy, they are younger and more vile then you are. Rex Nov 2015 #16
 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. The pot calling the kettle black...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

Where were you George H.W. Bush the day Kennedy was assassinated?

"I don't recall."

http://whowhatwhy.org/2013/10/02/bush-and-the-jfk-hit-part-3-where-was-poppy-november-22-1963/



Where were you the day that there was a meeting with the Ayatollah's agents in France.

"I don't recall."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/11/the-october-surprise-was-real/

Where were you when the assassination of Letelier was approved?

"I don't recall."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/21/1329464/-Terror-on-Embassy-Row-The-assassination-of-Orlando-Letelier

JHB

(37,161 posts)
3. The Wingnut reaction to this should be entertaining...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:25 AM
Nov 2015


Of course, too little too, too late, Poppy.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
4. Once gain, it's worth mentioning that the Dennis Hopper character in "Land Of The Dead"...
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:25 AM
Nov 2015

...was patterned after Rumsfeld. It's all documented on the film's DVD "extras."

The 2005 George Romero zombie flick starred Hopper as "Kaufman," a boorish, Trump-ish rich guy who, at the onset of the zombie apocalypse, built a wall around the city's prime real estate, erected luxury high-rises, and sold safe haven to the highest bidders. meanwhile, everyone else lived outside of the walls / fences like refugees in a bombing raid.

And both Romero and Hopper were very open about stating in interviews that "Kaufman" was intended to mirror Rumsfeld.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
5. The logical conclusion is obvious. Boy W
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:26 AM
Nov 2015

was a terrible judge of character, and his choices caused damage to the country.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
6. Fracturing of the Bush Empire with vicious infighting.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:28 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)

Would be a nice Christmas present.

deminks

(11,017 posts)
7. If Poppy's brakes are off,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:29 AM
Nov 2015

it might be interesting to see what Meacham didn't print.

Otherwise, I don't give a hoot what the old man feels. Covering his ass now over his son's crimes does not dismiss his own. I do find it amusing that Cheney felt the need to respond. Heh, heh.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
11. craven! Trying to wriggle out of responsibility since Trump blew up their "W kept us safe" meme
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:14 AM
Nov 2015

Now they will all be running for cover, except for the cyborg Cheenee 1000 and his robotic metal family.

ugh, what horrible people they all are.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Careful Poppy, they are younger and more vile then you are.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:46 PM
Nov 2015

I'd watch what I say about people that would step over warm bodies for a nickle...oh wait, is that you too Poppy?

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