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Fraternal Order of Police is threatening a surprise attack on Quentin Tarantino. (Original Post) Dawson Leery Nov 2015 OP
They are shameful in what they support...just like the NRA. kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #1
Sounds like the basis of a lawsuit to me. nt Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #2
Be nice if they took all that energy Tsiyu Nov 2015 #3
time for a racketeering investigation of the benevolent brotherhoods and some house cleanings nt msongs Nov 2015 #4
yes, but laws do not apply to them - they are hopemountain Nov 2015 #5
I'm not in favor of union busting, but Jim Pasco should be removed That Guy 888 Nov 2015 #6
So, these geniuses just made Quentin's point... monmouth4 Nov 2015 #7
I'm guessing the irony is lost on them. n/t Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #14
And they don't seem to notice that publicly announcing one's intentions... MindPilot Nov 2015 #16
Again, I am calling for a ban on all collective representation organizations for law enforcement. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #8
What bullshit. Anyone who works for a dollar should be entitled to collective bargaining. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #19
No group that possesses the (very) arbitrary power of life and death hifiguy Nov 2015 #9
Nice way to prove your point that you are not arbitrarily violent, threaten someone. NightWatcher Nov 2015 #10
so mr tarantino has no 1st amendment rights? WTF spanone Nov 2015 #11
Cops have nobody to regulate them or seems to care to. Rex Nov 2015 #12
Yeah, this'll help restore the publics faith in the fairness of our police forces. herding cats Nov 2015 #13
Pasco is either a liar or has a Carsonesque detachment from reality. MindPilot Nov 2015 #15
"Threat!" NoAssumptionsPls Nov 2015 #17
Wow. AzDar Nov 2015 #18

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
3. Be nice if they took all that energy
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:04 AM
Nov 2015

and time and started some de-escalation training for some of their members.

Sorry, FOP, but this "we-are-perfect-how-dare-anyone-criticise-us-special-snowflakes" crap does you no favors. This really makes the union look petty and childish, lacking in impulse control, vindictive and too dysfunctional to accept criticism.

NOT people who should be running around with guns, I'd say.

Grownups realize that cops, doctors, teachers etc have good and bad eggs in their profession. But too many cops today seem to think a badge makes every cop a perfect angel with the best of intentions. Like the rest of us can't figure out that they are just weak humans like the rest of us, as tempted by their rage/debt/lust to do the same stupid shit humans have done forever.

It really destroys cop credibility when they handle people's opinions like petulant, hormonal middle schoolers. Grow up, FOP, for god's sake.


hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
5. yes, but laws do not apply to them - they are
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:31 AM
Nov 2015

a fraternal order - they can do no wrong and if they do, it is hushed and they all close ranks around one another - no matter what.

& this is bound to lead to twisted and sick.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
6. I'm not in favor of union busting, but Jim Pasco should be removed
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:56 AM
Nov 2015

I think Jim Pasco at a minimum should be removed from his position for legal, pragmatic and ethical reasons.

Legally it seems that Pasco is inciting officers to harass a private citizen , which ought to be against the law if it isn't already.

Pragmatic - If the police arrest, for a legitimate cause, I would certainly use the quote to muddy the waters with a jury. I would think undermining prosecutors with inflammatory statements.

Ethical - calling for police officers to intimidate someone because you don't like what they say is violates the spirit if not the intention of the First Amendment.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
16. And they don't seem to notice that publicly announcing one's intentions...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

kind of negates the whole concept of "surprise".

This is harassment and intimidation--pure and simple.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
19. What bullshit. Anyone who works for a dollar should be entitled to collective bargaining.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:01 AM
Nov 2015

There are other ways to reform law enforcement than ensuring no one wants to work in it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. No group that possesses the (very) arbitrary power of life and death
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015

over other human beings has any business being unionized

Particularly in a "union" that borrowed the entirety of its business model directly from the Mafia, right down to the omerta.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. Cops have nobody to regulate them or seems to care to.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:47 PM
Nov 2015

"When asked if this was a threat, Pasco said no, at least not a physical threat. "Police officers protect people," he says. "They don't go out to hurt people.""

Why lie and fuel the fire? Are cops this delusional? Move over mafia.

herding cats

(19,567 posts)
13. Yeah, this'll help restore the publics faith in the fairness of our police forces.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

What an egotistical idiot.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
15. Pasco is either a liar or has a Carsonesque detachment from reality.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:54 PM
Nov 2015

When asked if this was a threat, Pasco said no, at least not a physical threat. "Police officers protect people," he says. "They don't go out to hurt people."

NoAssumptionsPls

(20 posts)
17. "Threat!"
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:54 PM
Nov 2015

The right time and place will come up..and we’ll try to hurt him in the only way that seems to matter to him, and that’s economically,” he said.

This seems to be the direct quote but I only found it in one media source. Others didn't forget to put in the word, "threat," but left out "economically," ---which is what I immediately thought of: the police union is going to organize a boycott of Tarantino's film! Duh!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/06/fraternal-order-police-quentin-tarantino-surprise

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