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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLiberals' Targeted Killing Problem
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/05/targeted-killing-and-tortureThe Associated Press recently reported that White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan is America's new death czarthe individual most responsible for overseeing the Obama administration's targeted killing of suspected terrorists.
There's long been a right-wing meme comparing targeted killing to torture, with the conclusion that torture is obviously less immoral. The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf doesn't make this argument directly, but he alludes to it in his post on Brennan's new authority:
'So to sum up, Barack Obama insists while campaigning that "enhanced-interrogation techniques" are a euphemism for illegal, immoral torture that makes us less rather than more safe from terrorism, and insists that the Bush Administration was imprudent for using those tactics.
After being elected, Obama forbids those tactics from being used. And he names as a top counterterrorism adviser someone who advocated the tactics he regards as imprudent and immoral -- ultimately entrusting him with more power than anyone else to decide whether various figures should be assassinated by our classified flying robot army.'
There's a really important moral and legal distinction to be made between torture, which is always illegal and always wrong, and killing, which can occasionally be both justified and legal. And conservatives who argue that targeted killing is worse than torture are not saying we should stop killing peoplethey're saying we should also torture them. There is an obvious legal and moral bright line between mistreating people in our custody and killing on the battlefield.
Blurring the lines between custodial treatment and killing combatants only aids lawlessness. The laws of war exist to contain violence to combatants, who have consented to fight one another with the knowledge that doing so could lead to their deaths. This is why we should (but we sometimes don't) make a distinction between those who fight willingly and those who cannot consent, such as child soldiers. By definition, no one consents to being tortured.
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Liberals' Targeted Killing Problem (Original Post)
xchrom
May 2012
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orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)1. NWO in full bloom
Insider .
unhappycamper
(60,364 posts)2. It sounds like Brennan took a page from Yoo's playbook.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)3. doesn't it though? and why? nt
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)4. When the engines of war are on the hunt, always follow the money....