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MH1

(17,600 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:41 PM Nov 2015

Darkness in Paris. (Charlie Pierce)

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39723/paris-terror-attacks/

There is no question that it will get worse as they move toward dawn in Paris. There is no question that it will get worse as the days turn into months and the months into years. Barbarians have laid siege to an entire European city for one of the first times since Rome fell. The body count will climb. The retribution will be swift and harsh, as will the inevitable reaction, and as will the retribution for the reaction. And the events of the day will be fed into the armored, blind triviality of the ongoing American election, and into the utterly corrupted American political system, and into the carefully cultivated timidity and faithlessness that all of these things have combined to make out of the American democracy over the past 15 years. Something awful has happened in Paris. Out of it will be born something awful in the collective mind and the collective heart and the collective soul. I wish I weren't so sure of this, but the planet looks awfully black from up here, and it doesn't look any different if you close your eyes.​
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Darkness in Paris. (Charlie Pierce) (Original Post) MH1 Nov 2015 OP
French radio reporter Julien Pearce was inside the Bataclan theater... TeeYiYi Nov 2015 #1
The money line hifiguy Nov 2015 #2
I haven't read anyone here sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #5
There have been some pretty clear insinuations hifiguy Nov 2015 #6
Here on DU? sulphurdunn Nov 2015 #8
now is not the time-- but there are always questions about why such things happen Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #9
Here you go Renew Deal Nov 2015 #10
K&R. So sad... Overseas Nov 2015 #3
KnR Hekate Nov 2015 #4
... 840high Nov 2015 #7

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
1. French radio reporter Julien Pearce was inside the Bataclan theater...
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015
...when gunmen entered. Two men dressed in black started shooting what he described as AK-47s, and after wounded people fell to the floor, the two gunmen shot them again, execution-style, he said. The two men didn't wear masks and didn't say anything. The gunfire lasted 10 to 15 minutes, sending the crowd inside the small concert hall into a screaming panic, said Pearce, who escaped. He said he saw 20 to 25 bodies lying on the floor. The hostage situation at the Bataclan continued early Saturday. One of the explosions at the Stade de France outside Paris appears to be a suicide bombing, a Western intelligence source receiving direct intelligence from the scene told CNN's Deb Feyerick. A dismembered body, consistent with the aftermath of an explosion from that type of device, was found at the scene, the source said.

TYY
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. The money line
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:02 PM
Nov 2015

"Barbarians have laid siege to an entire European city for one of the first times since Rome fell."

Yet even here, people seek to explain away, if not quite justify, the barbarians and their barbarism.

I prefer to remember the victims.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
5. I haven't read anyone here
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:46 PM
Nov 2015

trying to explain this away or even remotely justify it. Where did you get such an idea?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. There have been some pretty clear insinuations
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 10:48 PM
Nov 2015

that this is all the fault of the West. Which it may be in some part. And there was one kook speculating that it was a false-flag operation by Western states.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
8. Here on DU?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:00 PM
Nov 2015

There are always people who will make such claims. Their assertions are subject to the crucible of evidence just like anything else stated as fact.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
9. now is not the time-- but there are always questions about why such things happen
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:50 PM
Nov 2015

and who benefits.

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