It's possible that the attacks were not orchestrated by Syrian ISIS but

[snagglepuss]

by a group of French ISIS sympathizers. Personally I think a group of French Islamist asshats got their pants in a knot over the death of Jehadi John and this was their knee jerk reaction. The fact that this happened on right after the assassination seems too much of a coincidence.

I don't see these attacks as something that the so-called caliphate would want as it is being pounded by Russians and losing territory. Is slaughtering 140 French people enough of a "win" given the size of the retaliation that will occur?

[onecaliberal]

1. It was entirely too coordinated to be pulled off last minute.

It was likely these people cased each place to get a sense of the security. Especially at the theater entrance and the stadium.

[snagglepuss]

8. They could have had a plan in place for months but decided

at the last minute to carry it out now. I just don;t see how anyone in Syria's ISIS would think that a terrorist attack anywhere in the Eu would be a good idea at this time. Do they really want Russia and NATO bombing them?

[onecaliberal]

12. That's a good point, either way that's what will happen and the poor migrant people

Are going to be even more screwed.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. Agreed

These dudes didn't wake up this morning with their pants in s knot. Six months of planning minimum, even just for materials acquisition.

[snagglepuss]

17. They could have had this all planned months if not years ago just

waiting for the right time to put it in action. I'm sure they were all chomping at the bit but then lost it when their cult hero got evaporated. The question is why would ISIS think this is a good time to attack Europe? Was all their talk recently about a major terrorism operation in Russia simply a smokescreen for this or did this operation catch them off guard?

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Create a list of soft targets. Equip people with bombs and guns in their vicinity.

Attack them as needed, in a moment's notice.

What's so hard about that?

[melman]

2. These attacks were too coordinated to be a response to something that happened the day before

[cherokeeprogressive]

20. You're presupposing no terrorist is smarter than you are.

Create a list of soft targets like stadiums, concert halls, and other gathering places.

Place people in apartments close by ready to roll at a moment's notice.

Perpetrate terrorist incidents based on yesterday's news.

It's not rocket science, and it's coming to a venue nearby in the US. They've perfected their methods in other countries whose security measures are less stringent than ours, with an eye toward oh never mind.

[valerief]

3. Or was it provocated by war profiteers? nt

[B2G]

5. What?

Do tell.

[Codeine]

10. Sigh. nt

[valerief]

13. Burp. nt

[TheMastersNemesis]

4. Attacks On ISIS Will Be Brutal & Should Be. I Doubt There Will Be Any Prisoners.

ISIS will eventually be destroyed as they should be. Any idiot who decided to join them will regret their decision. These are people no one can live with not even many Moslems. I have been in a war zone and one thing anyone who has not served does not understand is that there are some enemies you must eliminate with extreme prejudice. ISIS is one of those groups. I hate war but was smack in the middle of it.

I remember the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. It took the NVA to defeat them after we left.

[davidpdx]

6. I read somewhere that it will take 10-12 years to get rid of ISIS

It will be a long time before it happens.

[TheMastersNemesis]

14. It Could Take Less Time With Coordinated Military Effort.

The big problem is that the push against ISIS is not coordinated and no one in the area is able to attack them alone. The way things are now it would take that long. It would have to be a coordinated international effort. It is doubtful such a situation would develop. Of course the disease has spread. Now it may be a generational problem.

[peace13]

15. I read somewhere that if we taught every eight year old to meditate...

...war would be irradicated in one generation. I wonder which plan would be more effective.

[Codeine]

18. Plenty of cultures have embraced meditation

and have still been quite warlike.

[davidpdx]

21. I'm not saying I agree with it, just what I read

Which is what I stated. We've already been at war longer than any other time in American history, personally I'd like to see it stop soon. Then again, what I want and what will happen are two different things.

[Igel]

22. You posted it.

Worked for a minister once who cited all sorts of crap. When called on it, his response was just, "That's what so-and-so said." He duly cited in proper Chicago Style Manual style every source, page number, and his quotes were spot-on accurate. Right down to ellipses and bracketed changes for stylistics or grammatical reasons.

"So, given the choice between bacon and chicken-poo porridge for breakfast, who's to say which might be nutritious?" Then he'd follow up with, "Well, I never really said chicken-poo porridge might even be edible, did I?" He'd be a good car salesman. Then again, he was a fundie-leaning minister. Gratefully, he was just the asst. pastor.

Point is, he cited crap, posed the same kind of question--"Perhaps this is true?"--and then denied any responsibility for the assumption that it might be true. Sucked any responsibility, accountability, and credibility right out of what he wrote.

[davidpdx]

23. Never said it was true

I stated that I had read it somewhere (and couldn't remember where). I guess I should cut and paste every little factoid I every think I might talk about so I can cite it.

It's the goddamn internet. Get over your fucking self.

If I wanted to cite something, I sure as hell would considering I have a doctoral degree and published journal articles. Better than you'll ever do.

[uppityperson]

7. I was happy to hear of jihadi John's death, but then wondered if something would happen

in retaliation. These attacks have obviously been planned for some time, but the killing of jj might have been the triggering event to do them now.

[JI7]

11. you think they decided and planned this within just a day or so ?

remember there was another attempted attack which some americans stopped not too long ago.

[snagglepuss]

16. No I think they had a plan but were just waiting for a time

to put it in action and that there was no coordination with ISIS in Syria. It's not that ISIS doesn't want to kill all kuffir but that with Russia pounding them it seems like an odd time to want NATO to mobilize against them. I would love to be a fly on the wall in Syria right now.

Dollars to donuts ISIS is shitting bricks and Assad couldn't be happier.