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From Mike McCabe's "Blue Jean Nation"
So far, the Democrats seem content to be the slightly less objectionable alternative. Their strategy largely consists of handing the Republicans plenty of rope and hoping they hang themselves. There are a lot of reasons why that is a questionable strategy. There is one reason in particular why it is actually a recipe for Republicans winning in spite of themselves. Democrats have lost their mojo in rural areas. They used to know how to appeal to rural voters but evidently have forgotten.
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When the Democrats were at the zenith of their power, they were unapologetic economic populists, starting with FDRs New Deal for the Depression-ravaged masses in the 1930s and continuing right through the 1960s with LBJs War on Poverty and Great Society programs. Shortly thereafter, it started to become fashionable for Democrats to describe themselves as socially liberal but economically and fiscally conservative. In practical terms, that meant being for such things as abortion rights, gay rights, gun control and legalization of marijuana while becoming increasingly friendly to Wall Street and royals of global industry. The party has been in decline ever since.
One important reason for the steady erosion of the Democrats fortunes is that being socially liberal but economically elitist is exactly the opposite of what most rural people are. They are more socially conservative than your average Democrat, but are feeling vulnerable and exploited and taken advantage of economically.
It is definitely conceivable the Democrats could remain socially progressive and win over enough rural voters to win back statehouses and gain firm control over Congress, but only if they combine lifestyle liberalism with very assertive economic populism. It is not remotely possible to be socially liberal and economically elitist as they are now and make any meaningful political inroads in rural areas. Not even if Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)That is, economically populist and socially liberal. It is possible to chew gum and walk at the same time, but it's no doubt big $$ is skewing them toward keeping the two mutually exclusive.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
"When the Democrats were at the zenith of their power, they were unapologetic economic populists..."
Who does that remind you of?
Unapologetic and consistent in his beliefs over time.
America needs Bernie.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)and a whole bunch of Senators and Reps to help him.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)not sure what populist policies are supposed to win over anti-choice, anti-immigrant voters who are not big fans of black folks or GLBT Americans. Take money away from cities and give it to Republican voters in Wyoming?
And your solutions to getting back thr governor's mansions, the state legislatures, the senate and house are?
I'm not saying he's completely right
But, I am curious how you would accomplish this goal
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)These things run in cycles.
The man who gave us our victories in 2006 and 2008 was George W. Bush.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Just like they consider welfare and black people to be synonyms.
So, what economic policies are going to win over culturally backwards rural areas?
Keeping in mind that they think government programs just help black people in cities.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that it is. It's particularly pronounced in the midwest when one talks about east coast elitists--because then you get a subtle whiff of anti-Semitism thrown in.
it also connotes people who have extensive education.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)"don't believe everything the Republicans want you to believe."
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that John Kerry was an elitist?
Because Kerry was from a big east coast city and liberal, who didn't dumb down his public persona.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)I just wanted to have me a nice sit down and a beer with that nice Bush fella.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)I agree with the opinion piece. So many republican voters should be Democrats yet vote against their own self economic interest.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and see what kind of Democrats get elected there.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)To me that is a large block of voters and a huge opportunity.
We don't need to win Montana, we need to peel off enough of the more moderate republicans to lock down the swing states. If we can lock down just Ohio and Florida, then republicans will never sniff the presidency.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)asking a national party to be responsive to that base but also in tune with anti-choice, rural voters who have been taught their entire lives to resent liberal elites and black welfare queens is unrealistic.
the real fight is the suburbs and areas filled with former urbanites.
rightwing populism works a lot more powerfully than leftwing populism would in voters who have been raised as rightwing populists
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Yes, they do.
What is the point of the opinion piece? That if the democrats would just make it more clear that they are voting against their own self economic interest, they won't do it anymore?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)to harm civil rights! That association is as plain as the F-35 on your face!
Why can't people see that like we smart people can?
Did you know that Bernie has a rubber F-35 squeeze toy that he uses in his nightly bath?
Regards,
TWM
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)what they like is rightwing populism, and farm subsidies
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Triangulating to the point where economically the Dem brand is blurred right in with the GOP.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It's like there is an unwritten rule: If the Republicans falter are become dysfunctional the Democratic Party must falter and become equally dysfunctional lest they gain an unfair advantage.
There is no mistake about it, the Democratic Party should be holding almost every available House and Senate seat. But it's like they aren't even trying, or REALLY actually trying.
jopacaco
(133 posts)I have lived in Maine for most of my adult life after growing up in Pittsburgh. Maine used to be a politically reasonable state with a strong independent mindset. Now it is a political crazy town. As I have driven through Central Maine during recent election seasons, I have been amazed at the numbers of Republican signs outside of houses that appear to be barely habitable (sadly the numbers are increasing quickly). Democrats have lost these people who are unemployed and are now in poverty after all of the manufacturing left over the last few decades. These folks hear the GOP talking points on Fox and don't look further. If the Democrats starting working on ways to get these people an opportunity to earn a decent living, they would come back. Social issues are secondary to survival.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)This should be read, and at least considered.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)But bad for the votes. I think we could win big being the party of the people again.
Some have argued that the social conservatism is keeping them in the GOP. I disagree- I'm in the reddest of the red states, and the opinions on the ground are already to the point of tolerance, moving on to "new normal."
A lot of the GOP people are followers. If we provide strong leadership and give them the future back for their kids, they my whine and moan about it, but they will go with it and be secretly happy to be secure again.